"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Caller ID -- Must Be Defeated At All Costs!

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141 to withhold your number in England, maybe all of Britain
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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just so suave said:
141 to withhold your number in England, maybe all of Britain
Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...;)
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...;)
yeah, then you look really wierd if you get into a relationship with the girl and she sees that you actually have a number. Plus you would look like a nosy telemarketer and I don't pick up the phone with them. Sounds sorta stalkerish or prankster type of person.

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How about this? You call her, if she doesnt' answer...leave a message, not saying you'll call back, but asking her to call you back. Girls don't do anything or go anywhere without their phones, and girls will check their phones a minimum of 100 times a day. So, if she hasn't called you back within 24 hours, its pretty safe to say she doesn't want to or she's playing games, in either case you should next her. Thats my 2 cents.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...;)
and caller id can still be defeated by *67
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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penkitten said:
and caller id can still be defeated by *67
True, but you have to ask yourself why did they feel the need to make an option for people who call people who they know wouldn't answer the phone if they knew it was them. Why call someone who wouldn't want to talk to you? :confused:
 

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Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...
And rightly, because -- in absence of a real good reason to do so, like wanting the person to call a different # than the one from which you're calling -- blocking caller ID is so 1990s.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
True, but you have to ask yourself why did they feel the need to make an option for people who call people who they know wouldn't answer the phone if they knew it was them. Why call someone who wouldn't want to talk to you? :confused:
i learned about the feature because of residents at my apartment complex (work). they page my emergency pager for emergency maintenance and i am to return their call, identify if the problem needs dealt with now or can wait until the next business day.
if they ever find out my home number i get calls all night long over who is in who's parking space.
so i learned about this feature to keep my home number private and be able to return their call at the same time.
win win for me.
 

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i have a real simple solution...i call her number as soon as i get it and tell her that i hate when call someone and they go who is this. it serves two purposes you sit there in front of her and call her number...it takes alot of balls for her to give you a fake number and play it cool as u call. also it takes a good deal of balls to call her out on her fake number. you have to do it right or you look dumb but i think it is a strong play. number two she then has your number and it makes things easier for her to return your call if she so desires. it reinforces a conncetion, you have already called and she will see that call in her call log and associate the good feeling of being with you with that call. um unless she was giving u a number so you would go away...

i dont feel this is desperate. if you do it with confidence you will be fine. it also eliminates the oh i didnt know who that was or any of that ****. you then dont have to wonder oh did she know it was me, did i call the right number, etc. you know all that ****.

she doesn call back at that point **** her and her excuses. its simple, if she likes you she will call back.
 

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Good approach, drmeathead. I've taken to doing something very similar that as well. Sometimes even have 'em call my phone right when I'm there, answer it, and make it a pretty funny exchange.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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