just so suave
Senior Don Juan
141 to withhold your number in England, maybe all of Britain
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Caller ID -- Must Be Defeated At All Costs!
- Thread starter BGC
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...just so suave said:
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
yeah, then you look really wierd if you get into a relationship with the girl and she sees that you actually have a number. Plus you would look like a nosy telemarketer and I don't pick up the phone with them. Sounds sorta stalkerish or prankster type of person.Francisco d'Anconia said:Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...
comic_relief
ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
How about this? You call her, if she doesnt' answer...leave a message, not saying you'll call back, but asking her to call you back. Girls don't do anything or go anywhere without their phones, and girls will check their phones a minimum of 100 times a day. So, if she hasn't called you back within 24 hours, its pretty safe to say she doesn't want to or she's playing games, in either case you should next her. Thats my 2 cents.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
and caller id can still be defeated by *67Francisco d'Anconia said:Psssst... This thread is like over half a decade old...
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
True, but you have to ask yourself why did they feel the need to make an option for people who call people who they know wouldn't answer the phone if they knew it was them. Why call someone who wouldn't want to talk to you?penkitten said:
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
And rightly, because -- in absence of a real good reason to do so, like wanting the person to call a different # than the one from which you're calling -- blocking caller ID is so 1990s.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
i learned about the feature because of residents at my apartment complex (work). they page my emergency pager for emergency maintenance and i am to return their call, identify if the problem needs dealt with now or can wait until the next business day.Francisco d'Anconia said:True, but you have to ask yourself why did they feel the need to make an option for people who call people who they know wouldn't answer the phone if they knew it was them. Why call someone who wouldn't want to talk to you?
if they ever find out my home number i get calls all night long over who is in who's parking space.
so i learned about this feature to keep my home number private and be able to return their call at the same time.
win win for me.
drmeathead
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i have a real simple solution...i call her number as soon as i get it and tell her that i hate when call someone and they go who is this. it serves two purposes you sit there in front of her and call her number...it takes alot of balls for her to give you a fake number and play it cool as u call. also it takes a good deal of balls to call her out on her fake number. you have to do it right or you look dumb but i think it is a strong play. number two she then has your number and it makes things easier for her to return your call if she so desires. it reinforces a conncetion, you have already called and she will see that call in her call log and associate the good feeling of being with you with that call. um unless she was giving u a number so you would go away...
i dont feel this is desperate. if you do it with confidence you will be fine. it also eliminates the oh i didnt know who that was or any of that ****. you then dont have to wonder oh did she know it was me, did i call the right number, etc. you know all that ****.
she doesn call back at that point **** her and her excuses. its simple, if she likes you she will call back.
i dont feel this is desperate. if you do it with confidence you will be fine. it also eliminates the oh i didnt know who that was or any of that ****. you then dont have to wonder oh did she know it was me, did i call the right number, etc. you know all that ****.
she doesn call back at that point **** her and her excuses. its simple, if she likes you she will call back.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
Good approach, drmeathead. I've taken to doing something very similar that as well. Sometimes even have 'em call my phone right when I'm there, answer it, and make it a pretty funny exchange.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.