Going paintballing next saturday. I invited this girl to go and she got all excited and invited like 4 of her friends to go with my buddies, on friday i couldnt find her to get her # so i got it from my friend, i dont wanna call or text her with her being like wtf? how does he have my number? she even told me to call her but i didnt have her # and i didnt wanna ask infront of her BF..so, waht should i say?
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Call/text, dont wanna be creepy
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The Bad Ass Canadian
Master Don Juan
Depends on what the rapport is. If you're both friendly (which I'm assuming you are) then there's nothing wrong with calling her. just say "hey, I didn't have your # so I grabbed it from ______ ". That's it. No big deal.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Yeah, I agree. As long as you know her fairly well, then it would be fine to call her, but why not make some use out of it. Bust on her for avoiding you, since you obviously make her nervous with your amazing charm. lol.
MacAvoy
Banned
If she's inviting 4 of her friends, I wouldn't have any hesitation about taking the liberty of calling her. When a man goes and gets a women's number, it shows that he is a man and isn't afraid of taking control like an AFC would.
ARrocket said:
lmao, thanks guys ill call her after i get all the info from another friend. And i actually dont know her that well, i talked to her once because i was talking to another friend of mine and I asked her if she was down to paintball, which is when we starting talking a bit. There is none to very little rapport between us.
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The Bad Ass Canadian
Master Don Juan
if you guys are going with friends paintballing then there's no harm in calling to say hey. You're making the plans so it shows your into havin some fun. A good quality
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
HandyAndy said:
hmm....no rapport? idk then...if paintball isn't until next weekend anyway, I'd wait. But that's just me. I think you should find her tomorrow, flirt with her a bit, then bring up the issue and get the number.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Spring break already? You lucky bastard 
Is it possible to call her friend whose number you have and ask her to deliver any messages you have for her?
Is it possible to call her friend whose number you have and ask her to deliver any messages you have for her?
Who you mean the guy I got the number from? Im really good friends with him, but I can do it myself I just dont want her to be freaked out or anythingARrocket said:Spring break already? You lucky bastard
Is it possible to call her friend whose number you have and ask her to deliver any messages you have for her?
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ARrocket
Master Don Juan
yeah I'm saying just tell your friend to give her the details about where you guys are going to meet, what time etc. That way you don't need to call her and worry about being creepy. Then, while you're out with her and everybody else, you can flirt with her and get her number.