Now I know more than likely you guys would rather get the woman's number but I also know that some of you give your number to the woman. I've read about both sides of the argument and there are fair points being made to both. I read that if you get her number you won't be waiting by the phone and you'd be taking action! On the other side of the coin, Tariq Nasheed says that he prefers to give out his number and tells the woman to call at a certain time so you KNOW she's interested. He says he doesn't like getting numbers because you'd be calling her like "remember me from XYZ?" If you don't know who Tariq Nasheed is then Google him. He's got a lot of good insight on dealing with women. Before I was hip to Tariq, there was this one time a friend of mine asked me for my number. I had known her for close to three years so I gave it to her. She never did call and I didn't believe she would. Even though I knew she wouldn't, it kinda threw me for a loop because it didn't make sense to ask for a number you were never going to call. But then again you know..... I said all of this to ask which one has been more effective for you?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Call or be called?
- Thread starter S. Pryor
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Ultimately it doesn't matter. It's about balance. Especially with high quality women, they want you to meet them half way or they too will never reach out due to living busy lives.S. Pryor said:Now I know more than likely you guys would rather get the woman's number but I also know that some of you give your number to the woman. I've read about both sides of the argument and there are fair points being made to both. I read that if you get her number you won't be waiting by the phone and you'd be taking action! On the other side of the coin, Tariq Nasheed says that he prefers to give out his number and tells the woman to call at a certain time so you KNOW she's interested. He says he doesn't like getting numbers because you'd be calling her like "remember me from XYZ?" If you don't know who Tariq Nasheed is then Google him. He's got a lot of good insight on dealing with women. Before I was hip to Tariq, there was this one time a friend of mine asked me for my number. I had known her for close to three years so I gave it to her. She never did call and I didn't believe she would. Even though I knew she wouldn't, it kinda threw me for a loop because it didn't make sense to ask for a number you were never going to call. But then again you know..... I said all of this to ask which one has been more effective for you?
When I exhange numbers with a girl, sometimes I'll just forget to ring her because I'm super busy and she'll end up calling me or sometimes I'll be bored and give her call and plan a meet up. Either way, it doesn't make you appear weak by calling her. It's just another form of communication. What makes a guy appear weak is calling her ALL the time. It is just like when a guy won't leave her alone in person. If you don't "need" something out of her, you'll find that the conversation will just naturally pan out and it won't matter how much you communicate with her because it won't be all the time.
DistrictofPenguins
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It's EASIER if she calls you, but since most women that have just met you don't have high IL; you're going to have to make the first call. Don't give her your number when you meet her, instead get her number, wait a few days, and ring it.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
ThatMysteriousGuy
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THIS IS ABOUT GIRLS I DON'T KNOW BUT FROM ONE OR TWO CONTACTS NOT ONES WHOM I'VE KNOWN SOCIALLY.
My problem with her calling initially is that it raises the likelyhood 10x+ that you're going to have a girl who doesn't have much of a life at all. That's not always true, but it's more often than not and raises the chances significantly that I'll end up quickly dumping her because she'll try to isolate me all to herself and that's not going to happen. I don't like to go out with girls who don't have their own life going on because I always encourage independence.
Unless you've created a very high IL yourself though your personality, the girl calling will likely be a huge problem. Those girls tend to be the ones that get a high IL all on their own because they're really needy.
Now, that doesn't include girls who call back after my initial call where there wasn't an answer. I don't leave an answering message so if she had a high IL it will get bumped a bit by her wondering what I was calling about (date? does he like me? am I missing out on something? blah blah blah). It's just fine if she calls in that case.
OTOH, if it's a girl from my social circle or ones I encounter a lot while doing my normal life stuff. We've encountered each other a bunch of times and she's comfortable with me, her calling is not problem at all. I've already had time to evaluate her personality.
Then I'm not giving up the lead, she knows me somewhat and is chasing in a healthy way.
My problem with her calling initially is that it raises the likelyhood 10x+ that you're going to have a girl who doesn't have much of a life at all. That's not always true, but it's more often than not and raises the chances significantly that I'll end up quickly dumping her because she'll try to isolate me all to herself and that's not going to happen. I don't like to go out with girls who don't have their own life going on because I always encourage independence.
Unless you've created a very high IL yourself though your personality, the girl calling will likely be a huge problem. Those girls tend to be the ones that get a high IL all on their own because they're really needy.
Now, that doesn't include girls who call back after my initial call where there wasn't an answer. I don't leave an answering message so if she had a high IL it will get bumped a bit by her wondering what I was calling about (date? does he like me? am I missing out on something? blah blah blah). It's just fine if she calls in that case.
OTOH, if it's a girl from my social circle or ones I encounter a lot while doing my normal life stuff. We've encountered each other a bunch of times and she's comfortable with me, her calling is not problem at all. I've already had time to evaluate her personality.
Then I'm not giving up the lead, she knows me somewhat and is chasing in a healthy way.
I.A.F.Y.B.
Master Don Juan
You ask for the number. You make the phone call. After you call her she will eventually know your phone number. Thus, giving her the chance to call you sometime.
So, in order for that to happen... You have to be seeing her only once or twice a week. The time you arent seeing her you are busy being a man and doing things. Which, will end up you becoming a "mystery" and a "challenge". Making her go crazy thinking about you and wanting more of you! Allowing you to hold the power and remain in control of your life.
So, in order for that to happen... You have to be seeing her only once or twice a week. The time you arent seeing her you are busy being a man and doing things. Which, will end up you becoming a "mystery" and a "challenge". Making her go crazy thinking about you and wanting more of you! Allowing you to hold the power and remain in control of your life.
The Grey Fox
Don Juan
get her number and call her a few days later, or exchange numbers leave it a few extra days and call (if she hasn't taken it into her own hands and called you first, it does happen sometimes).
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Well if she calls you, that means she's interested. If you call her, she's not always interested. So obviously, the woman doing the calling "works better."
But even if she's interested, she might not call. So you're better off doing the calling.
But even if she's interested, she might not call. So you're better off doing the calling.