There was some killer rapport before the 1st date. A couple of coffee dates, one lunch date, then a couple of boardgames over coffee. Known her for about a month and actually liked her more than most chicks I date. Laughed at each other's jokes, the usual B.S. She would've been good gf material . . . until this. . . .
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
C*ckblocked by Jesus
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
GC, you're beginning to scare me....
Giovanni Casanova
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I didn't write it, God did.
BGMan
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I was [title of thread] before. This one cute girl was starting to really like me, but after she came back from vacation she got "saved" and tried to convert me to her religion.
Screwed again...
BGMan
P.S. Martin Luther should have been hung with his own intestines.
Screwed again...
BGMan
P.S. Martin Luther should have been hung with his own intestines.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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Actually, not so much.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
St_joey, the only thing that I could suggest if you truly want to pursue this is to abide by her wishes (ewwww, I can't believe that I actually said that). It's apparent that she holds her religious beliefs higher than her personal ones. Supplicating to her and putting up with her tests MAY put you into good favor with her but the chances are slim.
My guess is that she may feel that you are somehow tainted since you did things early on. Also, your presence may just spur that memory in her each time she sees you and that may make her dislike you even more.
I can't give you much more advice because I purposely avoid people like this. They seem not to have their own, personal moral convictions, they base it all on religion to the point that they use it as a scape goat when they transgress. Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-religion, it's just organized religion that leaves me cold. It seems as if she is using it as a replacement leg and not just a crutch to hold her up.
My fear is that she will continue her wishy-washy actions and will make you jump through tons of hoops. Her ultimate purpose in this would not be only to test your willingness, but actually to prove her righteousness by having you conform to HER beliefs. The choice is yours. Whatever you choose, just make sure your eyes are wide open and be prepared for where your heart leads you.
My guess is that she may feel that you are somehow tainted since you did things early on. Also, your presence may just spur that memory in her each time she sees you and that may make her dislike you even more.
I can't give you much more advice because I purposely avoid people like this. They seem not to have their own, personal moral convictions, they base it all on religion to the point that they use it as a scape goat when they transgress. Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-religion, it's just organized religion that leaves me cold. It seems as if she is using it as a replacement leg and not just a crutch to hold her up.
My fear is that she will continue her wishy-washy actions and will make you jump through tons of hoops. Her ultimate purpose in this would not be only to test your willingness, but actually to prove her righteousness by having you conform to HER beliefs. The choice is yours. Whatever you choose, just make sure your eyes are wide open and be prepared for where your heart leads you.
Gangster of Love, thank you for the most insightful post I've seen in these forums! And thanks to Knicknack and Lan for your contributions.
I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks, but those posts moved me to register. Even though I have a bad case of Nice Guy Syndrome, I already knew most of the advice I've seen here at some level, and most of the rest I'm sceptical of. But I'd never heard of the "I'm not a slut" wall, and it rings so true, definitely explains some of my experiences.
I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks, but those posts moved me to register. Even though I have a bad case of Nice Guy Syndrome, I already knew most of the advice I've seen here at some level, and most of the rest I'm sceptical of. But I'd never heard of the "I'm not a slut" wall, and it rings so true, definitely explains some of my experiences.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
LOL @ the title!
That's the best title for a thread I've seen in some time!
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Read her the "Song of Songs" -- in its original, non-de-eroticized version.
Actually, Gangster's right on. Consider the lilies of the field, brother!
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I was involved with a very religious gal early this summer, who was always in a state of regret about how much of a "sinner" she was. But, damn, she was one hell of a good sinner!
That's the best title for a thread I've seen in some time!
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Read her the "Song of Songs" -- in its original, non-de-eroticized version.
Actually, Gangster's right on. Consider the lilies of the field, brother!
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I was involved with a very religious gal early this summer, who was always in a state of regret about how much of a "sinner" she was. But, damn, she was one hell of a good sinner!