MacAvoy
Banned
How do you overcome this? When a girl knows you have a g/f and she calls you out on it. How did you get around her anti-slvt defence in this scenario?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
but what about your g/f!
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
I dont cheat...i wouldnt know.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Fidelity issues aside, this is a simple ******** to English translation:
"but what about your girlfriend?
"I know you have a girlfriend, but if you're confident enough to keep working me I'll get bonus self-affirmation from your attention since you're expressly giving me what you'd give her."
It's not ASD at all. It's a failsafe for her to opt out if she doesn't accept your advances and gives her the moral high-ground. Think of it as a proactive LJBF, or a get-out-of-AFC-free card she can play at her leisure.
Trust me, if a girl wants to fukk you, she'll find a way to fukk you, and she wont ask you about your girlfriend. Women love to operate from the psychological to maintain their self-affirmation with guys, but if there's something they want they'll get it. Men are supposed to believe that women are deeply contemplative about sex and personal relations and an hour later impulsively spend innordinate amounts of money on shoes they'll never wear at Nordstroms? It's horesh!t. All stuff like this (and ASD for that matter) amounts to is psychological fillibustering - if a woman want's something, whether it's sex or shoes, she's going to find a way to get it.
"but what about your girlfriend?
"I know you have a girlfriend, but if you're confident enough to keep working me I'll get bonus self-affirmation from your attention since you're expressly giving me what you'd give her."
It's not ASD at all. It's a failsafe for her to opt out if she doesn't accept your advances and gives her the moral high-ground. Think of it as a proactive LJBF, or a get-out-of-AFC-free card she can play at her leisure.
Trust me, if a girl wants to fukk you, she'll find a way to fukk you, and she wont ask you about your girlfriend. Women love to operate from the psychological to maintain their self-affirmation with guys, but if there's something they want they'll get it. Men are supposed to believe that women are deeply contemplative about sex and personal relations and an hour later impulsively spend innordinate amounts of money on shoes they'll never wear at Nordstroms? It's horesh!t. All stuff like this (and ASD for that matter) amounts to is psychological fillibustering - if a woman want's something, whether it's sex or shoes, she's going to find a way to get it.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
A couple "off the cuff" things have worked for me, depending on the situation and the point at which she drops that little bomb.
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Is she here? You want to hook up a 3-way? I'm sure she'd be down."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Oh, (insert not the name of your girlfriend here)? She's not here. It's just you and me, so who cares?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "What?"
HB: "What about your girlfriend?"
V: "Who?"
HB: "Your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "Come on."
V: "See no evil, speak no evil."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "I'm sure she'd be greatful for your concern, especially your naked concern... pssshhhf."
"A little late to ask, don't you think?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Is she here? You want to hook up a 3-way? I'm sure she'd be down."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Oh, (insert not the name of your girlfriend here)? She's not here. It's just you and me, so who cares?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "What?"
HB: "What about your girlfriend?"
V: "Who?"
HB: "Your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "Come on."
V: "See no evil, speak no evil."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "I'm sure she'd be greatful for your concern, especially your naked concern... pssshhhf."
"A little late to ask, don't you think?""She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
MacAvoy
Banned
If you don't know your head from your azz then keep your head in the sand like a good little ostrichCod3r said:
Again if you don't actually have anything to contribute why say something for the sake of saying something? Need practice on your keyboarding skills?Tomatoes said:
Very good point, thanks for pointing it out. My method of attack has been from a supplicating nature which only reaffirms her power in the relationship.RolloTomassi said:
I know all of this but its a classic case of AFC with a certain women. I can be sauve around other women but old habbits die hard. I'm going to make a conscious effort to start being aloof and busy. The question is though, how do you make time for her if your so busy without her taking advantage of the fact that your making time specifically for herRolloTomassi said:
Some perfect classic examples. Thanks V.RolloTomassi said:
I knew the boys would come through. RT with his knowledge to attack the situation properly and V the aresenal to knock the competition defenceless.