MacAvoy
Banned
How do you overcome this? When a girl knows you have a g/f and she calls you out on it. How did you get around her anti-slvt defence in this scenario?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
but what about your g/f!
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
I dont cheat...i wouldnt know.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Fidelity issues aside, this is a simple ******** to English translation:
"but what about your girlfriend?
"I know you have a girlfriend, but if you're confident enough to keep working me I'll get bonus self-affirmation from your attention since you're expressly giving me what you'd give her."
It's not ASD at all. It's a failsafe for her to opt out if she doesn't accept your advances and gives her the moral high-ground. Think of it as a proactive LJBF, or a get-out-of-AFC-free card she can play at her leisure.
Trust me, if a girl wants to fukk you, she'll find a way to fukk you, and she wont ask you about your girlfriend. Women love to operate from the psychological to maintain their self-affirmation with guys, but if there's something they want they'll get it. Men are supposed to believe that women are deeply contemplative about sex and personal relations and an hour later impulsively spend innordinate amounts of money on shoes they'll never wear at Nordstroms? It's horesh!t. All stuff like this (and ASD for that matter) amounts to is psychological fillibustering - if a woman want's something, whether it's sex or shoes, she's going to find a way to get it.
"but what about your girlfriend?
"I know you have a girlfriend, but if you're confident enough to keep working me I'll get bonus self-affirmation from your attention since you're expressly giving me what you'd give her."
It's not ASD at all. It's a failsafe for her to opt out if she doesn't accept your advances and gives her the moral high-ground. Think of it as a proactive LJBF, or a get-out-of-AFC-free card she can play at her leisure.
Trust me, if a girl wants to fukk you, she'll find a way to fukk you, and she wont ask you about your girlfriend. Women love to operate from the psychological to maintain their self-affirmation with guys, but if there's something they want they'll get it. Men are supposed to believe that women are deeply contemplative about sex and personal relations and an hour later impulsively spend innordinate amounts of money on shoes they'll never wear at Nordstroms? It's horesh!t. All stuff like this (and ASD for that matter) amounts to is psychological fillibustering - if a woman want's something, whether it's sex or shoes, she's going to find a way to get it.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
A couple "off the cuff" things have worked for me, depending on the situation and the point at which she drops that little bomb.
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Is she here? You want to hook up a 3-way? I'm sure she'd be down."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Oh, (insert not the name of your girlfriend here)? She's not here. It's just you and me, so who cares?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "What?"
HB: "What about your girlfriend?"
V: "Who?"
HB: "Your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "Come on."
V: "See no evil, speak no evil."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "I'm sure she'd be greatful for your concern, especially your naked concern... pssshhhf."
"A little late to ask, don't you think?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Is she here? You want to hook up a 3-way? I'm sure she'd be down."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Oh, (insert not the name of your girlfriend here)? She's not here. It's just you and me, so who cares?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "What?"
HB: "What about your girlfriend?"
V: "Who?"
HB: "Your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "Come on."
V: "See no evil, speak no evil."
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "I'm sure she'd be greatful for your concern, especially your naked concern... pssshhhf."
"A little late to ask, don't you think?""She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
MacAvoy
Banned
If you don't know your head from your azz then keep your head in the sand like a good little ostrichCod3r said:
Again if you don't actually have anything to contribute why say something for the sake of saying something? Need practice on your keyboarding skills?Tomatoes said:
Very good point, thanks for pointing it out. My method of attack has been from a supplicating nature which only reaffirms her power in the relationship.RolloTomassi said:
I know all of this but its a classic case of AFC with a certain women. I can be sauve around other women but old habbits die hard. I'm going to make a conscious effort to start being aloof and busy. The question is though, how do you make time for her if your so busy without her taking advantage of the fact that your making time specifically for herRolloTomassi said:
Some perfect classic examples. Thanks V.RolloTomassi said:
I knew the boys would come through. RT with his knowledge to attack the situation properly and V the aresenal to knock the competition defenceless.