"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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but what about your g/f!

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How do you overcome this? When a girl knows you have a g/f and she calls you out on it. How did you get around her anti-slvt defence in this scenario?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I think the bigger question is, if you have a g/f why are you trying to get around her 'anti-slvt defence' ?? <--- whatever that is lol


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I dont cheat...i wouldnt know.
 

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Fidelity issues aside, this is a simple ******** to English translation:

"but what about your girlfriend?

"I know you have a girlfriend, but if you're confident enough to keep working me I'll get bonus self-affirmation from your attention since you're expressly giving me what you'd give her."

It's not ASD at all. It's a failsafe for her to opt out if she doesn't accept your advances and gives her the moral high-ground. Think of it as a proactive LJBF, or a get-out-of-AFC-free card she can play at her leisure.

Trust me, if a girl wants to fukk you, she'll find a way to fukk you, and she wont ask you about your girlfriend. Women love to operate from the psychological to maintain their self-affirmation with guys, but if there's something they want they'll get it. Men are supposed to believe that women are deeply contemplative about sex and personal relations and an hour later impulsively spend innordinate amounts of money on shoes they'll never wear at Nordstroms? It's horesh!t. All stuff like this (and ASD for that matter) amounts to is psychological fillibustering - if a woman want's something, whether it's sex or shoes, she's going to find a way to get it.
 

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A couple "off the cuff" things have worked for me, depending on the situation and the point at which she drops that little bomb.

HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Is she here? You want to hook up a 3-way? I'm sure she'd be down."

HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Oh, (insert not the name of your girlfriend here)? She's not here. It's just you and me, so who cares?"

HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "What?"
HB: "What about your girlfriend?"
V: "Who?"
HB: "Your girlfriend?"
V: "Huh?"
HB: "Come on."
V: "See no evil, speak no evil."

HB: "But what about your girlfriend?"
V: "I'm sure she'd be greatful for your concern, especially your naked concern... pssshhhf." :rolleyes: "A little late to ask, don't you think?"
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Cod3r said:
I think the bigger question is, if you have a g/f why are you trying to get around her 'anti-slvt defence' ?? <--- whatever that is lol
-Cod3r
If you don't know your head from your azz then keep your head in the sand like a good little ostrich

Tomatoes said:
I dont cheat...i wouldnt know.
Again if you don't actually have anything to contribute why say something for the sake of saying something? Need practice on your keyboarding skills?

RolloTomassi said:
"I know you have a girlfriend, but if you're confident enough to keep working me I'll get bonus self-affirmation from your attention since you're expressly giving me what you'd give her."
Very good point, thanks for pointing it out. My method of attack has been from a supplicating nature which only reaffirms her power in the relationship.

RolloTomassi said:
Trust me, if a girl wants to fukk you, she'll find a way to fukk you, and she wont ask you about your girlfriend.
I know all of this but its a classic case of AFC with a certain women. I can be sauve around other women but old habbits die hard. I'm going to make a conscious effort to start being aloof and busy. The question is though, how do you make time for her if your so busy without her taking advantage of the fact that your making time specifically for her

RolloTomassi said:
V: "Is she here? You want to hook up a 3-way? I'm sure she'd be down."
"I'm sure she'd be greatful for your concern, especially your naked concern... pssshhhf." "A little late to ask, don't you think?"
Some perfect classic examples. Thanks V.

I knew the boys would come through. RT with his knowledge to attack the situation properly and V the aresenal to knock the competition defenceless.
 
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