"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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busy clubs/bars with 150+ people vs bars with 25 people

Borknagar

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Okj I go out a lot, like most of us. I've been usually doing my game in busy uptown/downtown areas. But lately, I've been visiting my small suburban bars.

In the last month, I've went home with 2 chicks, and 1 chick came home with me. This is at bars with less than 50 people.

Granted I've had several SNLs at the busy places but my % seems to be quite a bit higher at these smaller places. I think I know why that is and I'll post more later cause I'm damn hungry and need food right now, but what's everyones opinions on busy/not so busy places?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Mike32ct

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I think a smaller or less busy place is better. The b*tch shields are lower when there are less dudes around. You'll find that the women will be more laid back, and even bored.

I think it gives you a better chance to properly game your target with less interruptions/distractions. The only tradeoff is less targets.
 

PDubb75

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Oh my god, smaller bars are so much better. So much easier to have conversations and actually meet people. And in my experience, the women in the smaller, laid back bars are higher quality women.

However, it's much more difficult to try to work multiple women, and there is always the risk of not liking any of the women there.
 

goodfoot

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I do better in smaller venues where you can actually isolate chicks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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