I have been out with a jewish girl on two dates and yesterday we watched a movie at my dorm and got to third base, But when I got there the field has not been "mowed". In my head all I can think about is the messyness that I would have to see, so I decided to just finger her and make out with her. I kind of felt like she was wondering why I did not F*ck her. Anyway, She just laid there like a log and I guess, expecting me to do all the work. Anyway, What do you guys think about girls that are not shaven or trimmed?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Bush
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
SeldomSeen
Senior Don Juan
RE:
thats their choice...
thats their choice...
vazeh
Don Juan
one time i had this girl in my bed. topless and in short shorts.
and i was going to go down on her but i felt her legs and they was a bit of hair growth and i got turned off and just kept above the equator from that point on...
hair is a turn off for me
and i was going to go down on her but i felt her legs and they was a bit of hair growth and i got turned off and just kept above the equator from that point on...
hair is a turn off for me
superchristx
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It's her choice, yeah. But she has a right to make an informed decision, so next time just say something (tactfully) and let her know its a turnoff. Really, this could be affecting her lovelife and limiting her options. You're probably not the first man to turn tail and run at the sight of her pubes, but you have a chance to be the first one to admit it.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
shiningshadow
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Hehe, this is quite the problem. I can understand you gettin' turned off though.
DonJuanMonk
Master Don Juan
I don't like it that much, I prefer it trimmed or shaven. If they want some oral action they better do it. Oh and cleanliness matters too.
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
DAFS!
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
The Juan and only
Master Don Juan
agreed.
I would try to deal with the issue early on by asking if they think guys should shave their legs/chest etc.....then either she'll ask you what you think about women shaving or you can simply throw it into the conversation ("...so you think men shouldn't shave? I agree..but its definately opposite for women..blah blah")..be casual about it.
Another option would be to make fun of her (C&F style) and start saying that you bet she doesn't shave and how women who don't shave are really dirty...blah blah (in a funny way of course).
The third option is to just tell her what you like.
DonMEgaHoss
Don Juan
Yeah the beared clam is a turn off...even when I see nudes of a hot woman and she has a wookie down there....Blah!
You could stand her on her head and put your head between her legs and look in a mirror to see how you would look with a beard...but thats when the benifits stop.... Eww jut eww..
Yeah I had one girl like that and I felt a curl or two when I was around the bikini line and I thought that was bad so I just fondles some boobies and made out...
I think shaving your chest is a no no... get irritated razor bumps and comes back thicker I think... From my experience. But trim those pubs back some
Seeing some girl go down on you to come back up with pubs in her teeth or her face disappears into the forest..
You could stand her on her head and put your head between her legs and look in a mirror to see how you would look with a beard...but thats when the benifits stop.... Eww jut eww..
Yeah I had one girl like that and I felt a curl or two when I was around the bikini line and I thought that was bad so I just fondles some boobies and made out...
I think shaving your chest is a no no... get irritated razor bumps and comes back thicker I think... From my experience. But trim those pubs back some
Seeing some girl go down on you to come back up with pubs in her teeth or her face disappears into the forest..
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
Whatever floats her boat. Shaven does not necessarily imply clean, and nor does hairy imply dirty.
But I do think some red hair down there (a "firebush") is more of a turn-on than shaven.
But I do think some red hair down there (a "firebush") is more of a turn-on than shaven.
ThunderMaverick
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Because you're proably from Europe.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
wavejams007
Master Don Juan
lol
Good_ol_boy
Senior Don Juan
NAH!, it's the young guys. (unless you're realllly into 6 year olds!)
I don't mind at all about her crotch being hairy (even when it's REALLY hairy). I think it would be a turn-off just if she had red pubes, because I can't really stand it (don't ask me why, because I really don't know). I like it shaved, trimmed or hairy
spider_007
Master Don Juan
You mean she had a "BEN WALLIS":crackup:
i absolutly HATE THAT
Dust 2 Dust
Master Don Juan
Jewbacca is a dead fukk.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.