Breakdown of Male Looks

[SoSerene]

50% Face - Shape, Eyes, Nose, Skin tone, Skin quality etc.
20% Body - Muscles, in/out of shape, fat/skinny?
10% Style - Clothing, accessories etc.
10% Height - Tall? Short? Average?
10% Hair - bald? thinning hair? cool hair style?

 

[zekko]

I'm surprised you put body at only 20%.
If you read the forum here, half the guys claim to go from complete zeroes to superpimps, just by going to the gym.

 

[marmel75]

I'm surprised you put body at only 20%.
If you read the forum here, half the guys claim to go from complete zeroes to superpimps, just by going to the gym.

I wouldn't say that, but I think what I have noticed personally is that women will do a lot more of the work for you...they will make it blatantly obvious they are interested and initiate a lot more of the time...they also tend to give you more opportunities to screw up as well before they "next" you...

Basically I think the point I am trying to make is, your "margin of error" so to speak gets bigger the better shape you are in and the amount of "work" you need to do gets lessened...granted, if you don't do anything with the opportunities you get, then it really doesn't mean much...for instance, if you had to do 80% of the work previously, you end up getting the same result doing 50% or less of the work...just my observations...

Definitely not the end all/be all by any means, it just makes things a lot easier...

 

[Who Dares Win]

I would take away 10% from face and move it to body and height.

A high height will definitely help you as much as a short one will penalize you, I heard plenty of girls defining a guy hot but then adding a "pity he is so short".

I would put body and height togheter at 40%, I see plenty of tall and muscular guys getting girls much more than skinny cute faced guys.

 

[MisterD]

Yeah height is definitely much more important. A tall guy with average or slightly below average looks will have just as much of a shot as a short guy with above average looks.

 

[SoSerene]

Thanks guys.

Revised Breakdown

40% Face - Shape, Eyes, Nose, Skin tone, Skin quality etc.
25% Body - Muscles, in/out of shape, fat/skinny?
15% Height - Tall? Short? Average?
10% Style - Clothing, accessories etc.
10% Hair - bald? thinning hair? cool hair style?

Sound good?

 

[OC Speedball]

Sounds about right. Being in decent shape or having a decent body mass (not being fat or emaciated) is more important than being ripped. Go on the bodybuilding.com forums and you will see how many threads there are from guys who are ripped saying that they got more pu$$y when they were skinny.

I am a guy who is in pretty good shape (six pack, toned everything, etc.) but it honestly makes little difference when it comes to girls. I've had girls say I'm "sexy" because of my body, but they don't throw themselves at me. Guys who are skinny or flabby get just as much action as guys who go to the gym everyday. Some girls do like big, muscular guys; but on average, most girls prefer a skinny guy. Guys that lift know this. Besides, you should be going to the gym for yourself, not for girls.

You should be in decent shape, but the gym really isn't as important as some people say it is. I think the people that advocate the gym to improve your chances with women are people that don't yet have that cut, ripped look; but rather, they think that once they do everything will be a cakewalk when it comes to getting girls. Unless you were fat the gym will only improve your looks by half a point or so.

 

[btownbuck2012]

50% Face - Shape, Eyes, Nose, Skin tone, Skin quality etc.
20% Body - Muscles, in/out of shape, fat/skinny?
10% Style - Clothing, accessories etc.
10% Height - Tall? Short? Average?
10% Hair - bald? thinning hair? cool hair style?

Ironically, it's the guys who 100% don't give a fvck about this sh!t who get all the ladies.

 

[sighsigh]

Sounds about right. Except why does hair have a separate category? Hair and face should be lumped together. A different hair style (or lack of hair) simply changes your facial appearance... it doesn't have any worth on its own. A girl won't consciously notice if you have hair or not.

This breakdown seems identical for women too.

Also, stop f*cking worry about physical appearance people.

 

[cola]

I say looks (body, face, hair, height) 30%
Swagger 70%.

The problem you guys have have isn't how you look. If you aren't morbidly obese, smelly or dirty looking your ok. You guys don't have swag. Thats why these dumb threads keep popping up. By swag I mean a attitude of entitlement. Walking with your shoulders back and tall. Being layed back, letting nothing bother you. Never accepting a back seat role, like a king basically. A leader, the top dog.

Girls like leaders.

 

[handle]

Why do we care about percentages? Look good, be cool, don't worry.

 

[RedZone]

Yeah seriously stop with the percentages. I agree with handle...Look good, be cool, don't worry and everything will fall into place.

 

[Mike32ct]

Hair is also a slightly bigger percentage. A hot shaggy or messy or spiky hair gives plenty of points, especially for young guys.

A good buzz or shaved head can also be a big improvement for some guys.

Receding hair is a slight minus. Thinning is a bit more of a minus. Crown balding is worst, but not a game destroyer if the rest of your look works IME.

 

[TravisBickle]

i'd say:


30% face: Jaw structure - which can be helped by bodyfat % although genetics are huge. "normal nose" > roman nose matched with good body (masculine) > big nose with bad body. teeth. non-obama ears. neat eyebrows.

30%: height: sweet spot 6'0 to 6'3 gets max points. under 5'8 becomes a non-starter for many women

20% physique: muscular/athletic (think zyzz) > BEAST > stocky > hipster skinny > skinny fat > fat

10%: hair: cool hair > normal hair > bald > balding (just buzz it off at that point man)

10%: skin: tan/clear > pale/clear > tan/acne > pale/acne

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maximize looks by: going to gym/weight training, dropping bodyfat through diet, tanning + skin care. do whatever u can do for hair - salvage it with rogaine, if u can grow it out make it look cool, if ur damn near bald just do a buzz it off. get ur eyebrows waxed. whiten ur teeth (so easy/cheap)

i went from 6'1 height, skinny-fat, pale, slightly thinning short hair, goofy big nose standing out due to **** body, caterpillar eyebrows, puffy face, poor posture

to

6'1 height, athletic built (~12 bf%), tan (i make up for damage with good skin care), thicker cooler hair (think Marat Safin), big nose but looks masculine with good body, neat eyebrows, stronger jawline, good posture

in a matter of a <2 years by taking good care of myself and proper dieting. confidence jumped up heaps and i am now "hot" and get attention from ladies who would never even consider me in the past. looks are easy as hell to fix, while personality/shyness is tough and painful.

 

[Iceberg]

1.5% eyes

8.5% teeth

13% feet

7% hands

10% hobbies

10000% who gives a ****

 

[corrector]

Okay, I just purchased like 34 personal training sessions at the Gym to improve my looks. So far the 12 session I have taken already plus the nutritional guidance has made a more masculine look than before. They are claiming if I continue under the guidance of this trainer, that girls will take notice of this later on as my looks are dramatically more defined.

Right now, only my mom has noticed my change in looks from these 12 sessions. These were foundations for later rigiroius sessions.

Now, I don't know how anyone can sell snake-oil with a clean conscience if this is correct. So it's time to break the fantasy and potential scam if this is not correct. For that money I'm spending on training, I could also book sessions with escorts. I mean, if I'm chasing a fantasy with this, then it's better to actually chase a real fantasy rather than a scam fantasy.

My height is below the sweet-spot, (I think 5'10-5'11), but it's not too low. My hair is balding and thinning, but I normally cut it low. Since I'm a mixed race person Blacks shave off their hair most of the time anyway. Wear glasses (can't put on contacts). My face is the way my face is.

When I put my picture online, I get very sparce or low results and it's like pulling teeth to get a decent interaction. Whatever I do get is far and few inbetween. So, I'm figuring, if I have a better body, lose the belly gut, that my looks will start improving.

Will have to do more research into this? But is this worth the cost of this at the end of the day, or is it better to just book escorts if you want an easy lay with a hot woman but don't have the looks enough for that to come easy in real life.

 

[Iceberg]

Okay, I just purchased like 34 personal training sessions at the Gym to improve my looks. So far the 12 session I have taken already plus the nutritional guidance has made a more masculine look than before. They are claiming if I continue under the guidance of this trainer, that girls will take notice of this later on as my looks are dramatically more defined.

Right now, only my mom has noticed my change in looks from these 12 sessions. These were foundations for later rigiroius sessions.

Now, I don't know how anyone can sell snake-oil with a clean conscience if this is correct. So it's time to break the fantasy and potential scam if this is not correct. For that money I'm spending on training, I could also book sessions with escorts. I mean, if I'm chasing a fantasy with this, then it's better to actually chase a real fantasy rather than a scam fantasy.

My height is below the sweet-spot, (I think 5'10-5'11), but it's not too low. My hair is balding and thinning, but I normally cut it low. Since I'm a mixed race person Blacks shave off their hair most of the time anyway. Wear glasses (can't put on contacts). My face is the way my face is.

When I put my picture online, I get very sparce or low results and it's like pulling teeth to get a decent interaction. Whatever I do get is far and few inbetween. So, I'm figuring, if I have a better body, lose the belly gut, that my looks will start improving.

Will have to do more research into this? But is this worth the cost of this at the end of the day, or is it better to just book escorts if you want an easy lay with a hot woman but don't have the looks enough for that to come easy in real life.

Well if you don't actually enjoy being in shape, then sure. Spend your money on escorts. And while you're at it, hard drugs.

It's not just a matter of getting muscles. There's also the issue of having a crap personality.

And yeah, I'm going to guess that the guy who considers allocating his gym money into escort money might be a bit weird, and not too fun to hang out with.

 

[BigJimbo]

i'd say:


30% face: Jaw structure - which can be helped by bodyfat % although genetics are huge. "normal nose" > roman nose matched with good body (masculine) > big nose with bad body. teeth. non-obama ears. neat eyebrows.

30%: height: sweet spot 6'0 to 6'3 gets max points. under 5'8 becomes a non-starter for many women

20% physique: muscular/athletic (think zyzz) > BEAST > stocky > hipster skinny > skinny fat > fat

10%: hair: cool hair > normal hair > bald > balding (just buzz it off at that point man)

10%: skin: tan/clear > pale/clear > tan/acne > pale/acne

------

maximize looks by: going to gym/weight training, dropping bodyfat through diet, tanning + skin care. do whatever u can do for hair - salvage it with rogaine, if u can grow it out make it look cool, if ur damn near bald just do a buzz it off. get ur eyebrows waxed. whiten ur teeth (so easy/cheap)

i went from 6'1 height, skinny-fat, pale, slightly thinning short hair, goofy big nose standing out due to **** body, caterpillar eyebrows, puffy face, poor posture

to

6'1 height, athletic built (~12 bf%), tan (i make up for damage with good skin care), thicker cooler hair (think Marat Safin), big nose but looks masculine with good body, neat eyebrows, stronger jawline, good posture

in a matter of a <2 years by taking good care of myself and proper dieting. confidence jumped up heaps and i am now "hot" and get attention from ladies who would never even consider me in the past. looks are easy as hell to fix, while personality/shyness is tough and painful.

http://foreignaffair.com/tour/photos/odessa-women-0711/images/Ukraine-Women-30.jpg
He laughs at you and other poor boys in stuck in America. Learn to cook and change diapers! Your women sure won't be doing that!

 

[TravisBickle]

http://foreignaffair.com/tour/photos/odessa-women-0711/images/Ukraine-Women-30.jpg
He laughs at you and other poor boys in stuck in America. Learn to cook and change diapers! Your women sure won't be doing that!

no sh1t! lol, american women are the worst.

 

[corrector]

1.5% eyes

8.5% teeth

13% feet

7% hands

10% hobbies

10000% who gives a ****

It is obvious you are not taking this thread seriously.