Boot Camp for The Mature Man

[So Many Ways]

Wow, this is still going? Great! I only made it through 3 weeks of boot camp but I saw a difference even in that short amount of time.

 

[Mountainman]

Week 1 Day 1

I've decided to embark on my own Boot camp. I've got to do some errands tonight so I figured it was a good chance to start on my 50 "hi's", "howdy", "how u doin" and "guttentag".
Updates to come. C'mon let's revive this section of The Mature Man!
G

 

[Mountainman]

Day 1 Results

Hey there,
My first day in boot camp went alright considering I didn't have a whole lot of time. I first hit Old Navy to burn a gift card and buy a new jacket. Said hi to a couple of girl's inside and got a smile and hi back from both of them. One was a redhead and a HB7ish Irish looking and definately weak at the knees over those lassies. Looking back I think I should've opened her because I got a nice smile while she was leaving the store. Didn't find the jacket because they didn't have an XL so I headed to Target. Did some shopping and said a couple of hi's but just got a smile. I then hit the mall and decided to look for a jacket there. Said a couple of hi's there and only got the "you talking to me?" kinda look. So overall an ok night. I'm heading out tonight to play some sand volleyball so I'll report back with day 2 tomorrow.

Hi and smile - 2
Smile -2
You talking to me?! - 2

 

[Nikos75]

Hello DJ fellows

I'm 32 years old live in Athens, Greece; it's a city blessed with extremely good weather and many absolutely gorgeous girls in a good mood.
It has never been difficult for me to attract the eyes of semi-gorgeous girls to drop-dead-beautiful ladies, as I' ve got a young-looking face of a nice guy combined with the green eyes of a seasoned veteran.
My problem is that I usually don't have the time to stay and start chatting, since Greek trainee lawyers like me are always on the run, and even if I start chatting whilst waiting on queue to file an application or to have some papers photocopied this damn phone will ring and I will have to respond immediately.

 

[Nikos75]

Another thing that usually happens is that I attract stares when I'm talking on the phone and because I almost always smile while talking, I find myself eliciting smiles from girls that I normally wouldn't notice.

I also don't know if it is happening to any one of you, but why is it that the totally appealing ladies come within my eyesight when I'm dating another girl?

A typical week:
Whilst running like hell to meet the deadlines in filing the papers,
More than 50 girls will lock eyes with me (most of them lawyers or trainees)
About half are going to smile first
I'll receive six to ten calls from girl-friends or wannabe-girlfriends in need to see me
50% of these calls are going to take place when I'm locking eyes with sb or when I'm out with sb. The rest 50% are going to take place when I'm on the run
If I'm lucky, I will see one or two girls sooo beutiful to make me stop dead on my tracks
And in any case most of the interesting (in this special sense) ladies are wearing in their fingers the ring that symbolizes that they are promised to sb else.

Yesterday was Week 1 Day 1

Locked eyes with 4 unknowns
Locked eyes for more than 5 seconds with 1.
No hi's there.

Met by chance one of former co-students. We had a chat, standing, for about 10minutes before we both had to run to finish our respective tasks. She asked me not to get lost again, and she's still gorgeous but she's divorced with a 6-year old daughter. So, I' ll have to stay away, for my own sake. While we were chatting a drop dead gorgeous lady caught my eye but she was escorted. If she were not, I would dump my co-student and introduce myself

Locked eyes and smiled with 4 female employees at the court that I had to interact with. All of them know me by name, but they're all older than me (40-55).

Another trainee lawyer had "accidentally" rubbed her tits against my shoulder. I chose to ignore her, because she wasn't up to my standards.

A bank teller also tried to play me; during the transaction, she was smiling, she gave me the cat-voice and she passed her tongue all around her half-opened lips. I had a jolt, but no time to elaborate on this. But I'll be back some other day.

Received no personal calls.

 

[Nikos75]

The game is on...

Week 1 Day 2 Friday 9th February Locked eyes with 6 Locked eyes for 5+ secs 2 Smiles received 1 Hi 1 Chat 1 Intimate conversation 1
New tel.numbers 1 Sex 0 Dating 2 (together) for a classic music concert Calls received 6 (from 2)

Week 1 Day 3 Saturday 10th February Locked eyes with 15 Locked eyes for 5+ secs 1 Smiles received 1 Hi 1 Chat 1 Intimate conversation 1
New tel.numbers 1 Sex 1 tanguera met in a milonga Dating 2 ( co-students together) for a jazz music concert Calls received 4 (from 2)

Week 1 Day 4 Sunday 11th February Locked eyes with 1 Locked eyes for 5+ secs 1 Smiles received 1 Hi 0 Chat 0 Intimate conversation 1
New tel.numbers 0 Sex tanguera at my place Dating 1 ( co-student) at her place for dinner Calls received 6 (from 1)

Week 1 Day 5 Monday 12th February Locked eyes with 6 + 4 c-s Locked eyes for 5+ secs 0 Smiles received 1 Hi 0 Chat 4 Intimate conversation 2
New tel.numbers 2 Sex 0
Dating 2 ( c-s) for coffee in sequence Calls received 8 (from 4)

Deciding to get another degree has been the most rewarding decision of my life so far. Apart from studying law in the (private) American University of Athens, I also attend the (state) University of Piraeus where I pursue International and European Studies. In the private university my co-students are for the most part daughters of diplomats or of wealthy and powerful guys and they are coming from every corner of the earth. My best options are an Angolan, an Ethiopean, an Italian and a Swedish cuttie. In the state university there is an endless supply of 18 to 23-year-old girls that are dangerously attracted to the older confident guy. Every time I attend these courses or go to sit for an exam, some are coming to introduce themselves and far too many are locking eyes and smiling. Thus, I'm almost never alone. Think yourselves about it... Increasing your market value whilst meeting many girls that you can dazzle easily...the poor guys their age :cuss: stand no chance when you'll be around.

Also, tanguerias (places where you dance tango argentino) are THE PLACE TO BE. I have never regretted all the money I've spent to learn how to dance tango argentino. The ladies in the milongas (tango argentino meetings) are ALL AVAILABLE to dance and while dancing they rub themselves all over you. In the dancefloor "es l' hombre que manda": the man leads the couple and directs the girl with his grip around her. The catch is that YOU MUST KNOW HOW TO DANCE well enough to arouse her. Seems like I'm getting better at it, because for the last five years I hadn'tscored more than twice in tanguerias.

 

[Nikos75]

Week 1 day 6 Tuesday 13th February
Locked eyes with 10 Locked eyes for 5+ secs 6 Smiles received 2 Hi 2 Chat 1 Intimate conversation 1
New tel.numbers 1 Sex 0
Dating 1 (co-student) for a drink after class

 

[Nikos75]

Week 1 day 7 Wednesday 14th February
Sex 2

Week 2 day 1 Thursday 15th February
Locked eyes with 6 Locked eyes for 5+ secs 6 Smiles received 5 Hi 3 Chat 3 Intimate conversation 1
New tel.numbers 2 Sex 1 (c-s)
Dating 2 (1 when I met her on the spot -YES) + (1 co-student after class) One of the waitresses (165cm, white, blond, blue eyes, big tits, nice face, 25-30) in my favorite cafe is starting to show an unusual degree of interest and has rubbed herself on the back of my head on many occasions. I'm still not showing any interest about what she displays as an offer. I'm driving her nuts

 

[DonJuanBond]

Finally making a commitment to do the DJ BootCamp.

This is my first post on this site. I am posting this to reafirm my commitment to start and complete the DJ boot camp today thursday april 26th 2007. I have been avoiding doing this since I first found out I was getting played by my ''gf''back in 2004. I met a guy I worked with who was a hard core player but had been an AFC in high school. He got played by a female he dated for the entire 4 years of high school. She never had sex with him and then she dumped him when she decided to give it up to someone other than else. I picked his brain with a sense of fascinating revelation as he described exactly step by step how he seduced females. I remember it like it was yesterday, I went to the Baker street mcdonald's in London near my flat and searched the internet and found sosuave. Unfortunately I have been p*ssy footing around since then and still an AFC, considering it is 2007 and I still can't get girls to save my life. It sucks worse to know you are an AFC and not do anything about it than it does to do what you need to do to progress, take it from me, I know!

 

[BobFuest]

I have started boot camp and am in week 3. I have had been through this before but just started again. although all this is easy i am sticking to week 3 just a little longer so that I can go for the ten girl and not the 7 or 8. easy stuff for me tho. I really am just trying to learn to maintain what i learn in boot camp through the LTR and into the rest of my life...

 

[Fallen]

I see that i'm kind of reviving this thread before it vanishes into oblivion.

Although i am probably writing this mostly for my own amusement, i really would appreciate advice, encouragement and feedback. Especially from the "Silverbacks"

I also would like to see a brother in arms to swap stories.

Info about me: 36, completely out of the game for 3 years ( my dad passed away, had to take care of my mother, got new job(s), a lot of work, financial issues, the whole package ) Although i handled everything pretty well in my opinion and slowly things are starting to work out in my favor, i recently found myself in a slump. I lost focus on what I wanted, became somewhat depressive, gained weight. I lost the initiative. Had to react instead of act. Do you remember those hammer-games at the arcade? Where you have a big rubber hammer on a leash and a desk with holes in it in front of you? And every time something pops up out of a hole you hit to make it disappear just to have them popping up again faster and more often? (Don't know if these games have a particular name since they're not popular in Germany. But i remember them from my trips to the U.S.)
And that's basically how i felt during the last years.
Now that i have managed to dig out of my hole to some extent and gained some perspective, i want to refocus on becoming a more social and happy person again.
Never was much of ladies man in the past but i had my share, especially since i found ss about 6 years ago. Never did a boot camp. Just read articles and adopted some of the techniques and methods but gained a whole new view on women and on life in general ( and lost it again due to the mentioned circumstances )

Anyway:
In the last 8 weeks i managed to lose some weight, hit the gym, started swimming again, enrolled in a lot of evening classes ( another foreign language, massage techniques, self-employment for dummies, etc. Basically everything i am interested in learning, to fill my schedule and also to meet a lot of new people/women. Classes starting in October ) I am really getting my sh!t together and am feeling good about it. In every way but one. That's why i decided to do the boot camp.


Week 1 Day 1:
This was a lousy day to start the boot camp. I have to study hard because of some upcoming tests ( heading for a second degree ), have a cold and didn't get much sleep the last couple of nights. But since cop-outs and excuses are not an option anymore, i wanted to start this today no matter what.

Since i am not working my office-job today, i went for a swim at a public swimming facility ( is there a particular english term for this in the U.S.? I am not talking about "Wet'n'Wild" or "Raging Waters". Public, indoor, no fun, just swimming) At the entrance i walked into a girl, made eye contact and said "Hi!". 1 down, 49 to go. No big deal.
That was pretty much it for swimming because there weren't really that much people to meet and greet. Went home afterwards, got my books and studied for 3 hours. Then i went to the groceries and to the mall.

(To be honest, i don't have a problem looking most people in the eyes. I work part-time in a big company for almost 3 years with about 2500 employees at site. Because i hate the "big corporate world" and consider most employees as mindless zombies, lemmings and always wonder, how these people have managed to become that way. The Matrix at work! About a year ago i started to look everyone i see and meet during the day, directly into the eyes and say Hello, Hi, Good morning or whatever. And the results were shocking. Some people don't look back at me at all, don't greet back, most look to the floor and completely avoid eye contact. Some say Hi in a very nervous way. Some look like i am about to mug them or jump them. Women usually respond better than men. Men of age 50 and above who make 10 times the money i make, can't look in my eyes and say Hello. And the more i do this, the more i find it hilarious.
I really hate my job there, but it's a factor of steadiness with a regular paycheck until my other work starts to pay off, until i get my second degree and start my own biz in the near future. And i only work 3 days a week, so no problem.)

Anyway, at the mall i tried to make eye contact with a lot of people wandering around but only 3 ( girls about my age or younger ) looked back at me. No "Hi's" at all. Coward.
Only confirmed 1 Hi and confirmed 4 eye contacts isn't very much. I left the mall and saw that it has started raining again. At a red light i saw a cute asian chick with an umbrella waiting for the green light. So i went over to her, stood close to her, looked into her eyes and said "A little higher, please!" with a smile, looking at her umbrella since i had none. She smiled, lifted her umbrella a little higher so that i wouldn't get wet. When the lights turned green we crossed the street, i thanked her and left.

That makes 2 confirmed Hi's and 5 confirmed ECs. Not really much but at least a start. I am confident about the remaining 48 Hi's and 45 ECs. My real troubles will begin next week.

Note to myself: Don't stare at thugs, bada$$es or creeps and don't stare at their girlfriends as well. ( Had to break EC on 4 occasions out of fear of being shot or stabbed immediately )

By the way: When you look someone in the eye(s)? Since you can't look into both eyes at the same time, into which one do you look? From your view? I read an article saying that a look into the right/left eye will stimulate the right/left brain side, which is emotional/rational and as a tip you will want to look into the right/left eye of a girl you're interested in. But i didn't get it, because they didn't say from which persons view it was. Any thoughts on that?

 

[DarkShade]

Sounds like a nice concept, I'll give it a shot once my body is in a more human shape, and less like Grimace. I should get better results then

 

[Fallen]

Week 1 Day 2:

Didn't have much time to leave the house, so this is gonna be a short one. Spent about 1 hour downtown wandering around running errands. Had 11 confirmed eye contacts, mostly with girls/women. Chickened out on the Hi's again. Since i don't walk around with a permanent smile on my lips, i think i am forgetting to smile when making eye contact.

I feel somewhat anxious and nervous about saying Hi to strangers who walk by. Had a lot of chats with store clerks, but i think these Hi's don't count. However i chatted up a women ( customer ) at the groceries, asking about her opinion on some specific item. If it tastes good, is worth buying etc. Told her i always buy the xyz and am getting tired of it so i would need something new to try. It was a nice chat and i think i am going to count it as a Hi.

I am having trouble remembering all the little things i put on my list while "on a training mission". Good posture, smile, no fidgety movements, speaking slow, smiling, maintaining eye contact etc.

That makes a total of 3 Hi's and 16 ECs. Still sucks but the weekend is going to be more productive.

I have a class reunion coming up and i am looking forward to it. I think i might have a chance to close the gap between talking to strangers and talking to familiar people, since i haven't seen a lot of them in like 15 years and with some i haven't ever been very close in the first place. Might be fun to see how everybody is doing so far.

 

[Fallen]

Week 1 Day 3:

So i had my last test for this semester. Afterwards i went for a coffee downtown and later the day i attended my class reunion. Acquired a total of 14 ECs and 11 Hi's today. The funny thing was, that while hanging around on a Saturday at campus and while going to my former school for the class reunion, all the people i ran into, i figured that i know them somehow, even when the fact is, that i didn't. Fellow students on a Saturday must be writing the same tests that i am and the people in the vicinity of my former school, while parking the car, must have been somehow former classmates. So saying Hi was much less of a problem than before. And almost everyone responded with a friendly Hi. Chatted up some random people at the class reunion. Some of them i knew, some of them i didn't. Wandered off a lot instead of sitting with former classmates and listening to stories of marriage, divorce, pregnancies etc.
I have a total of 30 confirmed ECs and 14 Hi's. Have to put in more effort. Especially the Hi's. Shouldn't be much of a problem, since semester break is ahead and my tests are over for now.

 

[Fallen]

Week 1 Day 4:

Went for a cup of coffee ( and a couple of Hi's and EC's ) to a coffee shop. Collected 8 EC's accompanied by 8 Hi's. Haven't got any more to report since i have been out for only 1 hour. The rest of the day was family business.
That makes a total of 38 ECs and 24 Hi's.

 

[Fallen]

Week 1 Days 5-7

So i had to finish my remaining Hi's and eye contacts. Since i had to work my office job and i figured Hi'S at work don't count, i had to go out to the mall and to the shops downtown, to meet and greet.

I was experiencing some sort of nervousness and couldn't exactly focus on the boot camp since i had a lot of other stuff going on. Anyway, went out the last 3 days with the mindset "This is gonna be creepy, because i have a lot of ECs and Hi'S left to do" ) And that's pretty much how it went. I finished with a lot more than 50 because somewhere i lost count. However i had 3 nice girls who said Hi back whom i can remember but i also got some ( a lot more than 3 ) stares and creeped-out looks after i said hi. And that's what made me feel nervous and uneasy about it. Because i waited for a reaction instead of giving a sh!t. And the second thing is that i alway want to have something to say to follow up, in case someone asks. And in most cases i can't think of anything to follow up.

Anyway, in the end i got a good laugh about it because i have seen it can be done without getting in trouble and i guess for a moment i made some particular people feel better about themselves by saying hi and giving a smile. ( Have to work on that smile however. Somehow it feels not genuine. Looking in the mirror, i think of it as more of a forced smile than happy and genuine. Not a good thing )

Will keep up the eye contact and the hi's in week 2.

 

[Fallen]

Week 2 Days 1-6

Last Thursday was a good day to start week 2 of the BC because first i was invited to a birthday party and then i went clubbing with some friends of mine. The birthday party was pretty cool because except for the (female) host i didn't know anyone. There were about 15 people in her apartment ( most of them girls ) and i talked and joked with every single one of them and had a great time. Not exactly chatting up complete strangers but in the end it was a cool thing to do. Got some new contacts, girls working as waitresses here in local bars and lounges. Pretty cool.
I left the birthday party ( had a lot of beer and some champagne ), met up with some friends and went to a nearby club ( some kind of "Oktoberfest" party going on, a lot of the girls dressed in "Dirndls" ) The place was jam-packed when we entered. Since i'm not much of a dancer ( at least not when i am sober ) i went to the bar to get me some drinks. Chatted up 2 girls who were getting drinks for themselves and asked them if they could order something for me. Had a 5 min chat about the busy barkeepers who wouldn't pay us attention since the place was so crowded. Asked them if they've been to the real Oktoberfest in Munich and why they didn't dress up in Dirndls tonight like some of the other girls around.
Not much of a flirty or c&f conversation but at least i got started again.
Had some more brief conversations with girls ( and some random guys ) but none of them lasted longer than a minute or two. Wasn't much of a problem since everybody i met seemed to be drunk or drugged anyway.

Since none of them were real cold approaches, i decided not to count them for the bc purpose.

But that was pretty much it. I seem to be falling behind the schedule since there's only 1 day left. I had 3 confirmed chats with strangers over the last 5 days. I chatted up a girl ( about 25, cute face ) while having coffee at a cafe on Sunday. She was sitting on the table next to mine and when she finished a newspaper, i asked her if i could have it and if there was something of particular interest in it. She started to rant about the ongoing financial crisis. I tried to change the subject to more entertaining topics without much success because the more she ranted, the more she seemed to get upset about it. I thanked her for the newspaper and told her that everything is going to be ok and that she should take it easy.

While window shopping on my way home i talked to 2 women who were obviously doing the same thing. I asked them about a certain kind of jacket that seems to be "cool to have" for the upcoming winter season. While one of them absolutely hated these jackets and overall seemed to have a *****y attitude and be in a pi$$ed-off mood, the other girl told me that she thought that the jacket would match the boots and the jeans i was wearing and would look real nice on me.

The third girl i met was monday afternoon at a gas station. She was at the opposite pump and was driving the same car, same color, same model like i am. So i said "Nice car you have there" with a cheesy smile. She smiled back and we had a 2 minute chat. Nothing flirty or funny. Mostly about gas prices.

Hmmm. 3 chats in 5 days. 7 more to go and only 1 day left.

The funny thing is that i have absolutely no problem in talking to a stranger when i have something "plausible" to say or when i actually need something from them ( Remember? Drinks at the bar, the newspaper, maybe sometime what time it is? ) But the thought of chatting up an attractive girl without a "purpose" and without knowing exactly how to follow up still scares the living sh!t out of me. At daytime on the street even more than at night in a bar-club-lounge environment.

I haven't been in a very good mood over the last couple of days because some of the things i am trying to leave behind still seem to get to me and catch up with me. The ghosts of past Christmas to say so.
One one hand i am kind of proud that i handled my familiar and financial issues ( mentioned in my initial bc post ) well during the last 3 years. On the other hand i realized that i never felt that abandoned and let down ever before during that time. I think that was the first time i ever felt somewhat lonely. Feeling like having no one to talk to. Don't know why. I always thought i have no problem being alone and on my own. I mean, i have the best friends one can imagine and i have a lot of good social contacts. It's not that i am an outsider and completely out of the loop.
Whatever. Still have a few pounds to lose, financial issues are being handled but i am still fighting the aftermath.

Have somewhat of a oneitis popping up in the back of my mind from time to time. Nice, beautiful, intelligent girl i met shortly before my father died. We were co-workers in bartending. Got along pretty well, great chemistry, lots of fun. Went out ( with the whole crew ) a couple of times. No kissing, no making out, no sex. But everything was set to happen. Then she had a terrible car accident. She was ok, but her bro almost died. That's when everything started falling apart. By that time my father was already in hospital and died about a month later. Although she had enough trouble on her own, she tried to maintain contact and look after me to see how i was. But i refused to open up, played everything down, acted "super cool". Basically a complete idiot. Whenever i found the time to go out on a weekend, i did as much alcohol and drugs as i could find, just to get my mind off of my problems and worries about my father. Over the next couple of month, i quit my job in that bar, we had less and less contact and she lost interest in the end because i was acting like an immature idiot anyway. Then i hear she now has a boyfriend and i decide to forget about her. Fast forward 18 month. I run into her in a bar/restaurant and we have a nice convo. I got the idea she's single again and ask her out. We go out a couple of times, have a great time but since i am still occupied with my problems and issues, i didn't have the balls to close her. Not even a kiss. What a big pv$$y i am. Over time, she began to lose interest in spending time with me again. A couple of months ago she texts me on my birthday, best wishes and telling me, that she's on vacation with her boyfriend. And that's when it hit me like a hammer and bit me in the a$$ and i realized how i lost focus on what i wanted during the last 3 years. Lost the "drive" and the energy to do the things i want to do and go for the things i like instead of playing it safe and doing "damage-control" with my life.

And that's pretty much where i am today. Did the "silent walk away" thing and cut all contact. She texts from time to time and i tell her how i am busy busy busy but that i am doing really great. How pathetic. Two opportunities and i have missed both of them. Wondering if i should call her sometime or do nothing and see if i get a third shot some day.

Sorry for the long off-topic but that's the stuff that's still haunting me. Although i really filled my schedule and am trying to keep myself busy at all times, i still do a lot of analyzing the past and trying to figure out things, that cannot be figured out. Feeling insecure and not sure if i have the energy and the power to accomplish my goals.
Most days i can cheer myself up and get my sh!t together, some days i can't. I guess today was one of the latter.

Anyway, i got a busy day at the office coming up and am planning to go out tomorrow night with two friends to have a couple of drinks and do some serious ( business ) talking. And i will do my remaining cold approaches

Thanks for tuning in!:yawn:

 

[Fallen]

I failed my goals for week 2 ( due to a lack of time and to be honest a lack of motivation ) and have to start the 2nd week all over. I'd be glad if someone would want to join.

So get your gear, saddle up and off we go, Bro. Lock & load!:rock:

 

[Fallen]

I'll post my results here. That reminds me that i have to finish my field report of my 2nd week 2, lol.

When do you start with week 1? Tomorrow? Or have you already started?

 

[Fallen]

Puddly, i started week 2 again last thirsday and am doing great so far. Field report will follow soon. Good to have a wingman, even if it's only online

Hope you'e doing good :woo: