“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I’m dating this girl for a couple weeks now, checked her Facebook, and noticed that she has about 10 beta orbiters constantly messaging her. I went on a little bit of a tangent reading some of these posts and am like wtf, every post is them telling her how beautiful she is and so on. Got annoyed with her because she’s making plans, with dudes, right on her Facebook timeline, but she says that they are just friends. I understand that this would be relatively normal behaviour for a single girl, but it seems a bit inappropriate for someone in a relationship by my opinion.

She’s also on selfie pages, and has a lot of guys hitting on her from the same city on her posts.

Is this a dump situation, make a demand, or ignore?

Red flag?
 
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She's not going to drop all of her orbiters for you after just 2 weeks .. She may start dropping them as time goes on if she starts to warm up to you.

If it gets to the 3-4 month stage and she's asking to be exclusive but she's still entertaining all these orbiters, that's when you say to her ''I can't take a girl seriously when she has all these guy friends she's hanging out with .. let's just keep things how they are'' (she will 100% fight this and try to get you into a discussion .. they're just friends etc .. do not fall for it .. just say ''I've said what I've had to say, you are free to do whatever you want.'')

If she doesn't get rid of them after you saying that then it's time to move on .. remember, you're not telling her what she can and can't do, you're merely stating a fact that you won't be exclusive with her if she has all these guy friends.
 

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She's not going to drop all of her orbiters for you after just 2 weeks .. She may start dropping them as time goes on if she starts to warm up to you.

If it gets to the 3-4 month stage and she's asking to be exclusive but she's still entertaining all these orbiters, that's when you say to her ''I can't take a girl seriously when she has all these guy friends she's hanging out with .. let's just keep things how they are'' (she will 100% fight this and try to get you into a discussion .. they're just friends etc .. do not fall for it .. just say ''I've said what I've had to say, you are free to do whatever you want.'')

If she doesn't get rid of them after you saying that then it's time to move on .. remember, you're not telling her what she can and can't do, you're merely stating a fact that you won't be exclusive with her if she has all these guy friends.
Excellent advice.
 

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’m dating this girl for a couple weeks now
For a couple of weeks, so one is to assume you have other options in your "dating" rotation and are not exclusive with this one...

checked her Facebook,
No dawg no. Why are you snooping on her social media? Somebody has oneitis and is jealous little beta (not an insult...the truth shall
set you free...)

I went on a little bit of a tangent reading some of these posts and am like wtf, every post is them telling her how beautiful she is and so on.
Sounds like you had "fun". Why were you not out busy with your life? Why did you have time and the inclination to snoop on a girl you barely even know? Why are you not spinning plates and following your life purpose? If she follows she follows, if she don't she don't...

Use a bit of observing ego right now: imagine this was a movie and you were looking at the male character and he was sitting there going through the girl's Facebook ....
Who is the star of that movie? who's a guest in whose world? Who is the oak tree and who is the squirrel?

Got annoyed with her because she’s making plans, with dudes, right on her Facebook timeline, but she says that they are just friends.
Yeah women don't NOT HEAR that whiney needy moan. This is an awful energy that you're giving up...

Try this: Be happy when for people when they make plans WITHOUT YOU. Because that's what this is all about.....this jealous boy energy is feeling ****ty as she has a life and she's making plans without him....
Try this: make your own plans WITHOUT HER. LET GO. YOU ARE TOO CODEPENDENT.

I understand that this would be relatively normal behaviour for a single girl, but it seems a bit inappropriate for someone in a relationship by my opinion.
A relationship lol. You don't own anybody. The book "no more mr nice guy" would be something you could benefit from...

Work on what you control in life and let go of what you don't. You'll find you're a lot more free mentally and emotionally.

Is this a dump situation, make a demand, or ignore?
how about, get a life? cultivate more options? let go of what you don't control? stay off Facebook nothing good ever comes out of it
 

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If it gets to the 3-4 month stage and she's asking to be exclusive but she's still entertaining all these orbiters, that's when you say to her ''I can't take a girl seriously when she has all these guy friends she's hanging out with .. let's just keep things how they are''
If you were a King, and one hot girl in your harem said ‘let’s be exclusive.’ would you say ‘I can’t take you seriously because you have a lot of guy friends?’ Maybe if you were the dumbest King alive o_O You would ask her to convince you why she is so special.

Her: “Let’s be exclusive”
Me: ‘Why? What can you offer me that the 27 year hot Asian girl can’t?’

Sosuave mindset of abundance, right?



she will 100% fight this and try to get you into a discussion .. they're just friends etc .. do not fall for it .. just say ''I've said what I've had to say, you are free to do whatever you want.''
Or she could say “Yeah you are right, I’m stupid to commit to you when I could have my freedom and sleep with all these other guys who take me out to dinner and cry when I break up with them. Makes me feel powerful.’

If she doesn't get rid of them after you saying that then it's time to move on .. remember, you're not telling her what she can and can't do, you're merely stating a fact that you won't be exclusive with her if she has all these guy friends.
Even if she didn’t have all the guy friends, I wouldn’t be exclusive with her.
 

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Lmao at the 10 orbiters telling her how beatiful she is part.

It just seems that world changes to polygamy and plates/orbiters spinning.

Cheating seems to not be wrong anymore. Cheating woman with 10+ orbiters? Its like stealing from stealer
 

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No, don't spaz, but she's probably going to land and bounce on a purple pill cawk. B!tches hate extremes. You can't be trying to fvck them and judge them in the same breath, so the only thing left is to outshine the other dudes and get her jocking your sack.
 

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Its laughable that you think this is some serious relationship after a few weeks. Let me guess, you want to lock yourself in a cage and throw away the keys like so many other guys on this forum the minute a girl drops her panties for you?

Its the most unattractive thing a man can do and will do more to get you dumped within a short time frame than just about anything else at this stage.

When are these posters going to learn that men do not lock themselves down in relationships?? That is a woman's job to do that. You are taking away the challenge and her need to obsess over you when she doesn't see or hear from you for a day or two...and while she is obsessing over you her feelings are growing deeper and deeper like roots of a tree...which allows you to have much more free reign in the long run. This style does not allow for these roots to be run deep so as soon as a little wind blows the love tree falls over and you are out...this is why so many people are having chicks that are totally into them for a few months and then dump them or go slow fade on them...

The posters who do this sh!t on the regular need to fvcking frame this damn post and read it every damn morning when they wake up and every damn night be for they go to bed to get this sh!t through their head and stop with this just overwhelming need to be in a relationship like some overly estrogenized female.

Why do you feel the need to play the female role in a relationship?? Why? Why? Why? Do you think this js going to turn out good for you long term? It 100% will not I promise you. You'll be posting about "how do I get her back" sh!t within a few months pretty much mainly because of what I just wrote.

This sh!t people are doing these days should be termed "anti-game" because its basically a way for you to dump yourself within a few months.

SMFH...I dont get the thought process or the motive of people these days..I cant relate. You barely know this chick and you are already posting lame ass sh!t about looking through her facebook?? Know how many times ive ever looked at a woman's texts or face book pages?? None because I dont give a crap about them.
 
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Its laughable that you think this is some serious relationship after a few weeks. Let me guess, you want to lock yourself in a cage and throw away the keys like so many other guys on this forum the minute a girl drops her panties for you?

Its the most unattractive thing a man can do and will do more to get you dumped within a short time frame than just about anything else at this stage.

When are these posters going to learn that men do not lock themselves down in relationships?? That is a woman's job to do that. You are taking away the challenge and her need to obsess over you when she doesn't see or hear from you for a day or two...and while she is obsessing over you her feelings are growing deeper and deeper like roots of a tree...which allows you to have much more free reign in the long run. This style does not allow for these roots to be run deep so as soon as a little wind blows the love tree falls over and you are out...this is why so many people are having chicks that are totally into them for a few months and then dump them or go slow fade on them...

The posters who do this sh!t on the regular need to fvcking frame this damn post and read it every damn morning when they wake up and every damn night be for they go to bed to get this sh!t through their head and stop with this just overwhelming need to be in a relationship like some overly estrogenized female.

Why do you feel the need to play the female role in a relationship?? Why? Why? Why? Do you think this js going to turn out good for you long term? It 100% will not I promise you. You'll be posting about "how do I get her back" sh!t within a few months pretty much mainly because of what I just wrote.

This sh!t people are doing these days should be termed "anti-game" because its basically a way for you to dump yourself within a few months.

SMFH...I dont get the thought process or the motive of people these days..I cant relate. You barely know this chick and you are already posting lame ass sh!t about looking through her facebook?? Know how many times ive ever looked at a woman's texts or face book pages?? None because I dont give a crap about them.

tell me how do I act as a man then
 

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How she your girl after a few weeks?
I said I’ve been in an exclusive relationship for a couple weeks nothing before that matters in terms of what guys she’s talking to.
 

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For a couple of weeks, so one is to assume you have other options in your "dating" rotation and are not exclusive with this one...


No dawg no. Why are you snooping on her social media? Somebody has oneitis and is jealous little beta (not an insult...the truth shall
set you free...)


Sounds like you had "fun". Why were you not out busy with your life? Why did you have time and the inclination to snoop on a girl you barely even know? Why are you not spinning plates and following your life purpose? If she follows she follows, if she don't she don't...

Use a bit of observing ego right now: imagine this was a movie and you were looking at the male character and he was sitting there going through the girl's Facebook ....
Who is the star of that movie? who's a guest in whose world? Who is the oak tree and who is the squirrel?


Yeah women don't NOT HEAR that whiney needy moan. This is an awful energy that you're giving up...

Try this: Be happy when for people when they make plans WITHOUT YOU. Because that's what this is all about.....this jealous boy energy is feeling ****ty as she has a life and she's making plans without him....
Try this: make your own plans WITHOUT HER. LET GO. YOU ARE TOO CODEPENDENT.



A relationship lol. You don't own anybody. The book "no more mr nice guy" would be something you could benefit from...

Work on what you control in life and let go of what you don't. You'll find you're a lot more free mentally and emotionally.


how about, get a life? cultivate more options? let go of what you don't control? stay off Facebook nothing good ever comes out of it
Thanks I’ll check the book out
 

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fireballs is spot on here, relationships naturally take time to progress. the first couple of months are a bit tricky because a would-be relationship can become a fleeting moment if you backslide or inadvertantly nuke things when issues like yours arise. besides, in EVERY SINGLE relationshhip ive had, its usually the girl that attempts to isolate me from my friends to consolidate my attention. every. single. one. in other words, dont be the female in this dynamic.

so, for the sake of game i will add the following.

she has 10 orbiters? thats cool.

all it takes to flip the script is just for you to talk to one good looking girl. there was a thread somewhere i posted with an early expeirence i had with just htis issue.

rememeber, a chicks imagination is one of the best tools in a sexually valuable mans arsenal. just talking to another good looking girl is enough to get that hamster going. you dont actually have to be doing anything with anyone.

and when she calls you out for shady behavior, do NOT point out her own plate spinning. just defelct, deny, obfuscate. use the same dirty tactics they use. "shes just a friend, am i not allowed to communicate with the rest of the human species now?"
Yeah well that’s the things, is I have friends with girls that are very good looking, and she’s been getting jealous already, and I don’t spend much time on Facebook, but at some point, a person is going to creep a girls page. I’m not very active on there anyway.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Broke up with her yesterday and told her that we’d be better off fwb. I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who constantly needs the validation. What happens when you get into a fight or an argument and you’re not providing her with the validation she needs? You can probably guess it.
 

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You should be analyzing this stuff at around the 2 month point of dating her. If she's still hanging out with other dudes, then you have 2 options:

1) Keep on fvcking her for the sake of fvcking her. Do NOT even entertain the idea of making her your GF
2) Throw her away and find a more suitable woman for a relationship.

Do NOT think that making her your GF will fix the problem. If she's really interested in pursuing a LTR, she will chase away the orbiters out of respect for you. If she does that, THEN reward her with exclusivity.

Unfortunately, most women today don't see any problem with entertaining other men while in a LTR. Listen to that gut instinct that tells you it's wrong for a woman to have guy friends. It's built into you for a reason.
 

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You should be analyzing this stuff at around the 2 month point of dating her. If she's still hanging out with other dudes, then you have 2 options:

1) Keep on fvcking her for the sake of fvcking her. Do NOT even entertain the idea of making her your GF
2) Throw her away and find a more suitable woman for a relationship.

Do NOT think that making her your GF will fix the problem. If she's really interested in pursuing a LTR, she will chase away the orbiters out of respect for you. If she does that, THEN reward her with exclusivity.

Unfortunately, most women today don't see any problem with entertaining other men while in a LTR. Listen to that gut instinct that tells you it's wrong for a woman to have guy friends. It's built into you for a reason.
I believe this
 
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