Best way to ask this girl out

[OngBak]

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I agree, but doing the first move helped me to relieve some tension I was carrying. If it works out, it works out, if not then plenty other woman out there

 

[Plinco]

I agree, but doing the first move helped me to relieve some tension I was carrying. If it works out, it works out, if not then plenty other woman out there

The point behind putting you in an uncomfortable spot is for learning in immersion.

 

[OngBak]

The point behind putting you in an uncomfortable spot is for learning in immersion.

That is true, but with context. In our context, it does not really matter and probably the best solution to get it done is just to make the first step which in itself is a uncomfortable spot to begin with, which I did. Besides that, If she were there, I would have asked her out.

 

[OngBak]

Update: Today in class, I was outside talking with a friend and another female classmate joined and talked with me. The girl I wanted to ask out walked in at that moment and only greeted the other girl, I swear she did not greet me on purpose, it was obvious. she is playing games. Then her best friend showed up, and she the same, did not acknowledge me, but it. was so obvious they are doing it deliberately. . After that, I didn’t feel comfortable asking her out, it didn’t feel right. Now I’m not sure what to do I really don’t like these kinds of mind games and don’t want that kind of tension in class. Why would they build that stupid tension with me?

 

[BPH]

Update: Today in class, I was outside talking with a friend and another female classmate joined and talked with me. The girl I wanted to ask out walked in at that moment and only greeted the other girl, I swear she did not greet me on purpose, it was obvious. she is playing games. Then her best friend showed up, and she the same, did not acknowledge me, but it. was so obvious they are doing it deliberately. . After that, I didn’t feel comfortable asking her out, it didn’t feel right. Now I’m not sure what to do I really don’t like these kinds of mind games and don’t want that kind of tension in class. Why would they build that stupid tension with me?

So you didn't want to ask her out...why?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

OP she sounds low interest at the moment. Ignore her for a bit in person and in your MS group. Wait a week or so and hit her up at the earliest opportunity. You should have blurted in with something c0cky/funny or teasing when she joined your group but now you're prob better off waiting until her guard is down rather than forcing an interaction to ask her out. But the best option is moving on mentally since she sounds low interest. If she gives you an opening though, go for it.

 

[OngBak]

So you didn't want to ask her out...why?

Bro. I was going to, but how so when she pulls that move on me? She had that amused look on her face, just walking through us and only greeting that one female classmate that was with us and not even greeting me lol. Or are they ganging up on me because I went for her bestie,

 

[OngBak]

OP she sounds low interest at the moment. Ignore her for a bit in person and in your MS group. Wait a week or so and hit her up at the earliest opportunity. You should have blurted in with something c0cky/funny or teasing when she joined your group but now you're prob better off waiting until her guard is down rather than forcing an interaction to ask her out. But the best option is moving on mentally since she sounds low interest. If she gives you an opening though, go for it.

There is no group. There’s one girl in class I get along well with, she often talks with me. I was chatting with another guy when she came over and then joined to talk with me. Then the girl I wanted to ask out walked right past us, seeing me talking to that female classmate Im good with and the girl i wanted to ask out only greeted her, not acknowledging me even though she was completely aware of my presence and saw me talking with her and a friend

 

[BillyPilgrim]

There is no group. There’s one girl in class I get along well with, she often talks with me. I was chatting with another guy when she came over and then joined to talk with me. Then the girl I wanted to ask out walked right past us, seeing me talking to that female classmate Im good with and the girl i wanted to ask out only greeted her, not acknowledging me even though she was completely aware of my presence and saw me talking with her and a friend

Thx for the clarity but the advice is the same. Blow her off for a bit and only make a move if she gives you an opening. And get your mind off of her.

 

[OngBak]

Thx for the clarity but the advice is the same. Blow her off for a bit and only make a move if she gives you an opening. And get your mind off of her.

Bro I swear my mind is going to blow, those woman always go hardcore mode on me.. I wanted to ask her out, Ill fall in that deep depression again

 

[BPH]

Bro. I was going to, but how so when she pulls that move on me? She had that amused look on her face, just walking through us and only greeting that one female classmate that was with us and not even greeting me lol. Or are they ganging up on me because I went for her bestie,

I think you're your own worst enemy.

Between this, your schooling, and your lifting, it sounds like you have an extremely high opinion of yourself - one which is not being backed up by your lived experiences so far - and believe that every man is against you and every woman is in awe of you - or, like in this case, that if they aren't, they must be playing games.

I really do believe there's a strong case that you have narcissistic personality disorder.

 

[OngBak]

I think you're your own worst enemy.

Between this, your schooling, and your lifting, it sounds like you have an extremely high opinion of yourself - one which is not being backed up by your lived experiences so far - and believe that every man is against you and every woman is in awe of you - or, like in this case, that if they aren't, they must be playing games.

I really do believe there's a strong case that you have narcissistic personality disorder.

No, you are over interpreting things in your favor. I did not say that every man is against me, I said that some of my classmates can be insecure around me, I also never said that woman are in awe with me I said, that woman sometimes go hardcore mode on me. I clearly mentioned that I have female classmate Im good with. why are you making things up? I honestly believe that you are looking for validation for your beliefs, but if you believe you are more socially aware then someone with psych degree, then something is more likely to be wrong with you! I actually mentioned in one thread:

"I have a background in psychology and I’m currently pursuing a business degree, so I get both sides the human element, including motivation and the psyche, from psychology, and strategic thinking and incentives from business. Combining the two lets you see the world on a much deeper level, one that, honestly, most people never reach. It can feel quite lonely at that level at times. Wisdom is more manifested in the deeper layer"

So it seems like you have a high opinion of your opinions then the other way around.

 

[BPH]

No, you are over interpreting things in your favor. I did not say that every man is against me, I said that some of my classmates can be insecure around me, I also never said that woman are in awe with me I said, that woman sometimes go hardcore mode on me. I clearly mentioned that I have female classmate Im good with. why are you making things up? I honestly believe that you are looking for validation for your beliefs, but if you believe you are more socially aware then someone with psych degree, then something is more likely to be wrong with you! I actually mentioned in one thread:

"I have a background in psychology and I’m currently pursuing a business degree, so I get both sides the human element, including motivation and the psyche, from psychology, and strategic thinking and incentives from business. Combining the two lets you see the world on a much deeper level, one that, honestly, most people never reach. It can feel quite lonely at that level at times. Wisdom is more manifested in the deeper layer"

So it seems like you have a high opinion of your opinions then the other way around.

Ok, look:

• You've asked for help asking this girl out, gotten great advice, then did the complete opposite by asking her out on Teams
• You believe you have such a good business idea that the possibility of failure doesn't exist, even though you have no proof from the market to back up your valuation
• You believe that because you are so attractive, your male classmates dislike you and seek to backstab you or make you look bad
• You believe, again, that because you are so attractive, your female classmates just shake their heads and supplicate to you - and when they don't, they must be playing games, because you can't fathom the possibility that she might be uninterested
• You speak with a lot of confidence, but when it comes time to show up - like when your crush walked right past you - you did nothing, and assumed she was creating tension and playing games (she may, or may not, but you don't know because you still haven't talked to her)

Believe what you want to believe, I'll let others take it from here since you seem so adamant, but this really is textbook narcissistic personality disorder. If I were you I would get diagnosed. Maybe it's the root of why you've been feeling "like a loser" lately, as you yourself put it.

 

[OngBak]

Ok, look:

• You've asked for help asking this girl out, gotten great advice, then did the complete opposite by asking her out on Teams
• You believe you have such a good business idea that the possibility of failure doesn't exist, even though you have no proof from the market to back up your valuation
• You believe that because you are so attractive, your male classmates dislike you and seek to backstab you or make you look bad
• You believe, again, that because you are so attractive, your female classmates just shake their heads and supplicate to you - and when they don't, they must be playing games, because you can't fathom the possibility that she might be uninterested
• You speak with a lot of confidence, but when it comes time to show up - like when your crush walked right past you - you did nothing, and assumed she was creating tension and playing games (she may, or may not, but you don't know because you still haven't talked to her)

Believe what you want to believe, I'll let others take it from here since you seem so adamant, but this really is textbook narcissistic personality disorder. If I were you I would get diagnosed. Maybe it's the root of why you've been feeling "like a loser" lately, as you yourself put it.

Man, I wish you could hear the slap of my hand on my face right now, believe whatever you want to believe Mr.Psychologist.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Update: Today in class, I was outside talking with a friend and another female classmate joined and talked with me. The girl I wanted to ask out walked in at that moment and only greeted the other girl, I swear she did not greet me on purpose, it was obvious. she is playing games. Then her best friend showed up, and she the same, did not acknowledge me, but it. was so obvious they are doing it deliberately. . After that, I didn’t feel comfortable asking her out, it didn’t feel right. Now I’m not sure what to do I really don’t like these kinds of mind games and don’t want that kind of tension in class. Why would they build that stupid tension with me?

I think you are not only coming off as assumptive, but also a bit pretentious. You’re saying she doesn’t even know your name, yet at the same time claiming that there’s chemistry, that she is curious about you, that she is referencing things you’ve said on social media, and that she’s already operating on your frame.

There are a couple of threads, which I’ve linked below, where posters believe groups of men coordinate to sabotage them, claim that women approach them for validation just to reject them, and say they get set up in front of a girl’s boyfriend. It’s the same pattern of assuming intent from others and building a narrative around how people are reacting to you socially, without solid evidence.

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The only clear facts here are that you barely know her and haven’t asked her out. Everything else, chemistry, tension, mind games, and these assumed social dynamics, looks more like you filling in the gaps with your own interpretations rather than something that’s actually been confirmed. The only real litmus test here is simple: take the lead and see if she actually follows or reciprocates.

 

[OngBak]

I think you are not only coming off as prejudiced, but also a bit pretentious. You’re saying she doesn’t even know your name, yet at the same time claiming that there’s chemistry, that she is curious about you, that she is referencing things you’ve said on social media, and that she’s already operating on your frame.

There are a couple of threads, which I’ve linked below, where posters believe groups of men coordinate to sabotage them, claim that women approach them for validation just to reject them, and say they get set up in front of a girl’s boyfriend. It’s the same pattern of assuming intent from others and building a narrative around how people are reacting to you socially, without solid evidence.

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The only clear facts here are that you barely know her and haven’t asked her out. Everything else, chemistry, tension, mind games, and these assumed social dynamics, looks more like you filling in the gaps with your own interpretations rather than something that’s actually been confirmed. The only real litmus test here is simple: take the lead and see if she actually follows or reciprocates.

It is not, You are actually no different then BPH. I actually caught you once, trying to frame as discriminatory, after i called you out with facts, then you tried to frame me as judging, which i was tired for to call you out again. You both have serious issues with social awareness and perception. I actually found BPHs instagram site and I can honestly tell you he is not real, in fact he is the one who is pretentious

 

[BPH]

It is not, You are actually no different then BPH. I actually caught you once, trying to frame as discriminatory, after i called you out with facts, then you tried to frame me as judging, which i was tired for to call you out again. You both have serious issues with social awareness and perception. I actually found BPHs instagram site and I can honestly tell you he is not real, in fact he is the one who is pretentious

My Instagram isn't hard to find numb nuts...

Also, again, everybody who disagrees with you must be your enemy. I'm telling you, dude, you're definitely narcissistic...

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[OngBak]

My Instagram isn't hard to find numb nuts...

Also, again, everybody who disagrees with you must be your enemy. I'm telling you, dude, you're definitely narcissistic...

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Thats my point. You are average in looks a solid 6, which I already assumed because of your lack of social awareness and no relate ability in experience. My Friends f.e are much better looking then you and they can identify with my experience. Your experience will never equal mine and that of my friends because we are above average in looks.

 

[BPH]

Thats my point. You are average in looks a solid 6, which I already assumed because of your lack of social awareness and no relate ability in experience. My Friends f.e are much better looking then you and they can identify with my experience. Your experience will never equal mine and that of my friends because we are above average in looks.

Yeah, clearly...sounds like you're having a great time.

I really hope you're able to get out of your own way enough to realize that you being this defensive is just further proving my point. Go get diagnosed, or grab a bite of some humble pie and understand that you COULD be wrong sometimes.

 

[OngBak]

Yeah, clearly...sounds like you're having a great time.

I really hope you're able to get out of your own way enough to realize that you being this defensive is just further proving my point. Go get diagnosed, or grab a bite of some humble pie and understand that you COULD be wrong sometimes.

Man, it is already game over for you. Whatever you say wont be taken serious from my side, as I said believe whatever you want.