"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Best opener for e-mail to new girl

Theunique1

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Any ideas? How do you open a beautiful girl online to get them to respond well?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Why not tell her why you're writing? :rolleyes:
 

Chemistry

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Just be casual...

Tell her she seems like a fun / cool person... sounds like you've got a few things in common and you'd love to talk to her some more... any chick I add that way I'll always tell her my MSN or tell her that she can e-mail me too, then after speaking for 10 or 15 on MSN I'll grab her number or just straight arrange to meet up in person... I dunno, I just find that chicks respond better to the transition when they have a little more familiarity from a quick 10 min chat...
 

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I once knew about a guy who chatted online with a girl I was banging for 6 months. No telling how nervous he was about asking for the number.
 

LA_Chico

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JPFromTally said:
I once knew about a guy who chatted online with a girl I was banging for 6 months. No telling how nervous he was about asking for the number.
OMG bro thats classic! your puttin it in her azz and you hear a instant message sound and respond "sorry bro, im busy bangin her, would you like me to take a message"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Fortunate_Juan

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JPFromTally said:
I once knew about a guy who chatted online with a girl I was banging for 6 months. No telling how nervous he was about asking for the number.

UHHHH ROFL.

Try quoting the movie Deliverance.

"you shore do got a purdy mouth" "squeal like a piggey"

In all seriousness (please do not quote deliverance) there is no "line" that will make anyone respond. Why not try something you think is funny. Why do you want to be some one else. If you end up getting her with some one else's lines what are you going to do when you run out of them?
 

JPFromTally

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Seriously. They would chat online and he would talk about her day. She would tell me what a sweet guy he was. I didn't really much give a sh1t.
 

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Theunique1 said:
Any ideas? How do you open a beautiful girl online to get them to respond well?
all you gotta say really is "hi", or "hey wats good". if she finds you attractive she'll respond back, and then you go from there.
 
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