"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Best HS kiss close

dj_jazzybrad

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Triangular gazing and the mystery close are the two that i can see working more often... unfortunately i have yet to get to the kiss close part of the escalation and am unsure how HS girl's reactions compare to those that the kiss close advice on this forum is aimed toward.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Axcell

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Who cares? I mean, I strongly believe "textbook stuff" can help, but I don't believe in following everything word for word - especially routines. Mystery's kiss close is NOT something I would recommend to do. Do you not realize how public the PUA world has become? That line has probably been used 1000's of times before. Each moment should be individual between you and a girl. The last thing you want is to use the same routine that an ex-boyfriend used!

Just casually have a good conversation with her in a place where both you and her are comfortable (that way she opens up to you and is comfortable kissing) For example: If she is a shy girl, she may not be comfortable kissing you in front of a lot of people, so you may want to go to a quiet park where they may not be so many people. That's why it is important to get to know the girl better and adapt based on what you find.. canned material does not account for any of the points mentioned above. Any, I shall continue. Have a casual conversation, make her laugh and wait for a bit of silence... (and ensure you have made enough rapport with her from the beginning) and than kiss her. It's not that difficult so don't make it seem like it is!

It is JUST a kiss, relax. Follow my method, stop using canned stuff. I, myself look at canned material but only to gain knowledge for personal ideas of my own or to alter them a bit... not to actually follow them exactly! You should do the same.

Hope I helped,
Axcell.
 

dj_jazzybrad

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Axcell said:
Who cares? I mean, I strongly believe "textbook stuff" can help, but I don't believe in following everything word for word - especially routines. Mystery's kiss close is NOT something I would recommend to do. Do you not realize how public the PUA world has become? That line has probably been used 1000's of times before. Each moment should be individual between you and a girl. The last thing you want is to use the same routine that an ex-boyfriend used!

Just casually have a good conversation with her in a place where both you and her are comfortable (that way she opens up to you and is comfortable kissing) For example: If she is a shy girl, she may not be comfortable kissing you in front of a lot of people, so you may want to go to a quiet park where they may not be so many people. That's why it is important to get to know the girl better and adapt based on what you find.. canned material does not account for any of the points mentioned above. Any, I shall continue. Have a casual conversation, make her laugh and wait for a bit of silence... (and ensure you have made enough rapport with her from the beginning) and than kiss her. It's not that difficult so don't make it seem like it is!

It is JUST a kiss, relax. Follow my method, stop using canned stuff. I, myself look at canned material but only to gain knowledge for personal ideas of my own or to alter them a bit... not to actually follow them exactly! You should do the same.

Hope I helped,
Axcell.
Thanks for the help. the more i think about it, the more I realize you're right. The method is hardly important, but it must fit the situation and the girl.
 

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dj_jazzybrad said:
Thanks for the help. the more i think about it, the more I realize you're right. The method is hardly important, but it must fit the situation and the girl.
Haha, exactly. Glad I could help you out.
 

SinJester

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Dude it's ****ing high school don't go using the Mystery Method. I wouldn't worry about girls in high school having heard and of the canned lines before. I mean if you are just using 1 or 2 canned lines and getting a couples pointers thats fine. If you are routine stacking and and following the M3 Method religiously then just stop. I'm just telling you this so you don't make the same mistake I did. If you are just using triangle gazing and that kiss close line, all good.

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Look here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1462192#post1462192
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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