jophil28
Master Don Juan
Jophil's TinFoil Rule #3457-
Never got involved in a triangle.
Never got involved in a triangle.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Captain Save _____ to the rescue! And an emotional tampon (by his own words). Making sure she does not just sink in a pit of depression (what are you...his girlfriend? her sister?)Sir Juanalot said:I've been a bit of an emotional tampon with her, as i used to do a lot of counselling, and made sure she wasn't going to just sink in a pit of depression.
Over the last 6 weeks, we have been seeing more and more of each other, and i am starting to have feelings for her.
jophil28 said:Jophil's TinFoil Rule #3457-
Never got involved in a triangle.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
A friend you only kinda know fair enough root away. But a best friend as the title of the thread states, I don't think so. You are basically saying a root is worth more then the potential to ruin or taint the friendship. Not only that but you would have to have a scarcity mindset to do it in the first place. I’m sure everyone has been put in this position once or twice. I would have loved to have banged on a few mates ex's but I have plenty of other options and so should you. And the potential for the woman to use you as a weapon against your best friend is also a major issue.WestCoaster said:4. Men shouldn't date friend's EX-wives or EX-gf's: B.S., they're no longer the "property" of that man. It wouldn't be my first choice, but my point is all these f--king rules that have men's nuts in a vice. I think Rollo Tomassi calls them socially operative conventions, or something like that.
There is WAY too much to lose in this scenario. And if a man comes to this board and ask for advice on this issue...then that man is not prepare to take that chance.WestCoaster said:According to this board and society, here's the drill:
1. Men can't date co-workers: B.S., I've dated some nice women from work.
There might be nice women out of the net. But men with options don't need the internet.2. Men shouldn't date off the internet: B.S., I've dated some nice women off the net.
Bars is for people to drink. The likelihood of finding "wife" material in a bar are very low.3. Men shouldn't meet women in bars: B.S., I've met some nice women in bars.
I call it...having CHARACTER and OPTIONS.4. Men shouldn't date friend's EX-wives or EX-gf's: B.S., they're no longer the "property" of that man. It wouldn't be my first choice, but my point is all these f--king rules that have men's nuts in a vice. I think Rollo Tomassi calls them socially operative conventions, or something like that.
True. Keeping in mind about the "likelihood" and "probabilities" of certain consequences based on our choices. My advice is always based on likelihoods.Part of being a DJ is not listening to society and forging your own path.
Standing ovation, West.WestCoaster said:She's not married, her husband has left her for another woman.
While if I was the guy here, she wouldn't be my first choice, here's the deal: In society -- and oddly on this board -- men have their nuts in a vice and most people here are agreeing with it.
According to this board and society, here's the drill:
1. Men can't date co-workers: B.S., I've dated some nice women from work.
2. Men shouldn't date off the internet: B.S., I've dated some nice women off the net.
3. Men shouldn't meet women in bars: B.S., I've met some nice women in bars.
4. Men shouldn't date friend's EX-wives or EX-gf's: B.S., they're no longer the "property" of that man. It wouldn't be my first choice, but my point is all these f--king rules that have men's nuts in a vice. I think Rollo Tomassi calls them socially operative conventions, or something like that.
So this leaves us with the hit and miss style of dating, and the dreaded "set up" by a friend (my friends have bad taste in women, I don't want to get set up by them).
After awhile you're stuck with hardly any venues to meet or date women because society -- and this board, oddly, which has adopted these rules -- has demanded that men can't do anything. Can't date women from work, school, an ex- from a friend and so forth. Jeeeeesus, man, can't we get out of our own way?
I would venture to guess there are thousands of marriages in this country of guys who married their friend's ex-gf or ex-wife, and it worked out well for both parties.
Can we quit with the "bro's before ho's" and "triangles" and never do this, that, this that, go by the rules.
Part of being a DJ is not listening to society and forging your own path.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
A more important part of being a MAN (forget the DJ fantasy stuff for a moment ) is to respect and protect your own dignity, welfare. wellbeing and reputation, both with your peers, the wider community AND yourself, most importantly.WestCoaster said:Part of being a DJ is not listening to society and forging your own path.
How does the phrase go, 'never get your pink where you get your green'WestCoaster said:Men can't date co-workers: B.S., I've dated some nice women from work.
Good matrix slogan, as is "don't fish off your own dock."IronStar said:How does the phrase go, 'never get your pink where you get your green'
I've found that if you question making a decision on something, often times it's just not worth it. There's a reason behind the questioning, for some reason, it doesn't seem natural. Ie...the right thing to do.jophil28 said:A more important part of being a MAN (forget the DJ fantasy stuff for a monet ) is to respect and protect your own dignity, welfare and wellbeing and reputation, both with your peers, the wider community AND yourself, most importantly.
"Forging your own path " is noble and admirable, however, to do so is NOT free license to plunder, scavenge and bottom feed just because you CAN..
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
i'm going to tell you why he is pathetic and why this is a huge no go.STR8UP said:Standing ovation, West.
I've been saying this for a long time now.....the kind of stuff you mention is the matrix disguised. Guys who THINK they have made it out are still in because of some of these ridiculous notions they cling to.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.