"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Best "don juan" podcast?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
KontrollerX
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Apparently justiceseeker was right about you and that guy.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
I UNDERSTAND Supreme, and can relate to him in many ways. When I started listening to his shows, it's as if I was listening to my own inner being.
HOWEVER, what I wrote above about your hero... is based on seeing a couple of pics of him, and listening to like 5 minutes of him talking about how you shouldn't be working at MikkyD's (surprize of the century right there).
SO,
perhaps my opinion will change cuz im planning to check out what else he has to say. Maybe I'm wrong and the man is saying some good sh!t, I'll listen to some Tom's shows.. Kontroller, do I click on that link on your sig or what?
KontrollerX
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No instead you worship a guy with 80lb of fat on him who stole all his material from Tariq Nasheed.
At least Leykis is a self made man.
"I UNDERSTAND Supreme, and can relate to him in many ways. When I started listening to his shows, it's as if I was listening to my own inner being."
Which is why we listen to any kind of talk show or follow any kind of writer.
Yeah though Surpreme is a rip off of Tariq and probably ripped off of Tom as well to be honest since Tom has been doing his show practically since before most of us were born or at least since we were small children.
I don't know about you but I can't bring myself to player
hate on any guy that consistently pulls hot b!tches and
especially not a fat guy that pulls hot b!tches because its gotta be harder for them and whats amazing about Tom is he was pulling quality tail even before he got famous.
"SO, perhaps my opinion will change cuz im planning to check out what else he has to say. Maybe I'm wrong and the man is saying some good sh!t, I'll listen to some Tom's shows.. Kontroller, do I click on that link on your sig or what?"
Yep, just click away and subscribe.
Tom won't make you pay to hear his advice or use his website like Player Supreme does and if you hear anything thats familiar that you've heard from PS while listening to Tom's show remember it was Tom who got ripped off and not the other way around.
Have you EVER lost an argument?KontrollerX said:"At least I don't worship one of those know-it-all radio talking head wise guys, who also has extra 100lb of fat on him , half of which is distributed to his face."
No instead you worship a guy with 80lb of fat on him who stole all his material from Tariq Nasheed.
At least Leykis is a self made man.
"I UNDERSTAND Supreme, and can relate to him in many ways. When I started listening to his shows, it's as if I was listening to my own inner being."
Which is why we listen to any kind of talk show or follow any kind of writer.
Yeah though Surpreme is a rip off of Tariq and probably ripped off of Tom as well to be honest since Tom has been doing his show practically since before most of us were born or at least since we were small children.
I don't know about you but I can't bring myself to player
hate on any guy that consistently pulls hot b!tches and
especially not a fat guy that pulls hot b!tches because its gotta be harder for them and whats amazing about Tom is he was pulling quality tail even before he got famous.
"SO, perhaps my opinion will change cuz im planning to check out what else he has to say. Maybe I'm wrong and the man is saying some good sh!t, I'll listen to some Tom's shows.. Kontroller, do I click on that link on your sig or what?"
Yep, just click away and subscribe.
Tom won't make you pay to hear his advice or use his website like Player Supreme does and if you hear anything thats familiar that you've heard from PS while listening to Tom's show remember it was Tom who got ripped off and not the other way around.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Supreme in my opinion - his material transends nationality and sh!t u know.
KontrollerX
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We all have to do and listen to what works for us.
Glad you're giving Tom's show a chance.
I gave Supreme's show a chance but he came off as too obnoxious for me so I stopped listening. Maybe you'll find a similar problem with Tom or something else to stop listening to him but the main point is at least you will of given his show a chance.
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
That should get you started, but if you do a quick Leykis search in iTunes, you'll find what you need.
Start with Leykis 101, and anything to do with finance and money.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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