"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Being interested, how? I don't care about anyone!

Huffman

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i felt the same way so i stopped going to parties and social events, i just spend my free time in the gym or training in martial arts at a dojo, im very lonely but at the same time i dont enjoy being around most people, it is what it is, im just going to keep focusing on my hobbies and myself
This is exactly what I want to prevent from happening. I'm not satisfied with "it is what it is". We can do it!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This is exactly what I want to prevent from happening. I'm not satisfied with "it is what it is". We can do it!
If you're not happy you should look to change things, but at the same time there's a possibility you're barking up the wrong tree. No one is always happy, and the grass always seems greener on the other side. You might be trying to shove a square peg into a triangular hole. Maybe, maybe not. Just food for thought.
 

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Right, thanks. I will experiment and check back in a couple of weeks. Just saying I appreciate everyone's advice.
 

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I generally agree with this, but how he wrote about it was different. You're kind of smoothing over all the bumps in his argument.
Well, Nietzsche was a complex guy, with a complex system of ideas, so to understand any of his aphorisms you need a more or less deep knowledge of the rest. That is why some aphorisms, taken by themselves, have "bumps". Damn, he even makes inside jokes from time to time, referencing to other books he wrote, or to old ideas he had, so a lot of times it seems that he's contradicting itself.
A great guy he was, and his aphorisms about women are precious. He didn't marry, used the pros lol.
 

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Well, Nietzsche was a complex guy, with a complex system of ideas, so to understand any of his aphorisms you need a more or less deep knowledge of the rest. That is why some aphorisms, taken by themselves, have "bumps". Damn, he even makes inside jokes from time to time, referencing to other books he wrote, or to old ideas he had, so a lot of times it seems that he's contradicting itself.
A great guy he was, and his aphorisms about women are precious. He didn't marry, used the pros lol.
Not gonna lie I don't understand everything he's trying to say. Partly because the writing style is unconventional and awkward. I would argue it's actually poorly written by today's standards. But the bumps I'm referring as a whole have to do with what I see as a gross oversimplification of the issue. His conclusions are mostly exaggerated guesswork also. I feel like his entire argument is one big straw man fallacy.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Huffman, It's easy to fall into the trap of think others are beneath you, but it's a false dichotomy because you are affixing a value system that places you higher on your system than others and they don't know the system criteria.

Best bet is to approach social situations with the intent of having fun or being outrageous or playing a role. You're not being fake but rather redressing social convention. It's a good way to bypass the same terrible conversations about people telling you how their job is important or how they ran a marathon, or dug water wells in some exotic water deprived 3rd world nation.
 

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I was there once!

But, you need to realize... it's a two way street. Being exciting and fun is work! Most people are lazy! If you're bored, something is wrong.

I use small talk as a springboard for all kinds of jokes and banter. I'm constantly surrounded by boring people. They like me because I'm "fun" to talk to.

Challenge: Be the joy in boring peoples' boring lives.
 
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