"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Being ignored/cold-shouldered & ignoring back

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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sarah00 said:
So I now have two questions to ask you: 1) do guys reject girls who they may have liked (or do like) for reasons other than "I was just being friendly. You misinterpreted me.".
No. They don't.

And frankly, I'm not even sure he liked you. The only thing you're going on is how he "stared at you". Which, could be completely in your imagination. If he asked you out, then I can say that he definitely liked you. But staring? Maybe he was looking at you, maybe not. Just saying - the foundation of your argument is pretty weak.

2) Am I doing the wrong thing by cold-shouldering/ignoring him back, or should I continue to be nice & friendly towards him in spite of it all?
To be blunt - who cares? You wanted to date him. He doesn't want to date you. So, he serves no purpose in your life. Why worry about someone who serves no purpose in your life?

I know you're not a man, but I'm going to phrase things to you as if you were - You gotta be logical about this. You just wrote a 2-page essay about some guy who you never even kissed. Never gone on a date with. Never anything'd. Is your love life so barren that you spend so much time thinking so deeply about some guy who rejected you 2 years ago? It's time to move on.

You're trying to learn about all the emotions behind his actions. Well, the world doesn't run on emotions. It doesn't care about emotions. Summer is hot, not matter how you feel about it. Winter is cold, no matter what your emotions are. My point is - this guy had NUMEROUS chances to make a move on you and he didn't. You could worry about the billions of possible emotions that guided him to act in such a way....or you could simply say, "If he wanted me, he would have made a move. Oh well."

Emotions = "Maybe he didn't ask me about because of A, B, C, X, Y, Z reasons."

Fact = "He didn't ask me out."

Stop making things more complicated than they need to be.
 

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My God, did you guys actually read all that?!?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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That was a very long post, so I'll just jump around based on what I remember from reading it.

First, I generally agree with Iceberg. I mean this guy had plenty of opportunities to ask you out, but he didn't.

Next, guys are usually pretty blunt when it comes to telling a girl that he only wants to be friends. I mean if he meant friends with benefits, he would have made a move on you. Since he didn't make a move, he REALLY does mean just friends. However, eventually he felt uncomfortable around you and sought to ignore you a bit. I'm not saying that's right, but that is probably what happened. Maybe he liked your friend too.

As far as him making sexual jokes with you, that is something FRIENDS do. Most guys (except for the aggressive bad boys) don't make many dirty jokes around women they are interested in for fear of turning her off. But with friends, it's open season on dirty humor.

As for him "staring" at you, I don't know what to make of it. There is no other evidence to suggest he's interested in you. When you consider body langauge, you need a MINIMUM of TWO signs to accurately read a person. One sign is ambiguous. For example, if a female raises both eyebrows at me, she's either attracted or scared of me. If she does that AND plays with her hair, ok, she is probaby attracted. But one sign is not enough to go by.
 

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If a guy tells a woman that he only wants to be friends, then he only wants to be friends. We don't engage in doublespeak.
 

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OP is hanged up over a guy who has expressed absolutely no interest in her. you built a fantasy world around the guy for years and its inevitably falling apart. simple solution..if he ignores you, you have every right to ignore him right back! why do you fight to gain the attention of a single guy when the're hundreds of other guys. frankly this is the type of attitude which get girls abused by their ******* boyfriends in relationships. do yourself a favour and simply forget about him.
Protip: next time try not to post so much, keep it short and sweet
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Wow... Concrete proof of a woman's thought process. Anyways, like the rest said: forget about the guy, it will save you some of that self esteem you have left.
 
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