guywhoneedshelp
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True that; Long Island is the wasteland for sarging. I have succeeded though but it's the worst.Smartone84 said:3% on Long Island
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
True that; Long Island is the wasteland for sarging. I have succeeded though but it's the worst.Smartone84 said:3% on Long Island
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Depends on many factors, but you're probably right.Drewskie said:On the average, how many nights do you think a guy actually goes home with a girl, I'd say it's only about 5, maybe 10%.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
In American they don't go to their locals and ask for a pint of bitter.Jeremymichael said:why not take a newspaper to read at the bar. Chat to the barmaid or tender they normally know people to make introductions. Look relaxed
Usually people don't go sarging like us. People usually go out in groups. But you have to start somewhere. Just go out more, be talkative, value yourself, and be friendly to others.Vanilla said:Tonight I went just to enjoy myself at the local bar. I did have a good time,but didn't come home with anyone. The band played all the great songs though it was much too loud and alcohol was expensive. I've only went a few times and I'm not sure I'll go back. The whole time I felt out of place sitting among the other people who seemed to know each other so well. I couldn't come up with anything to say to anyone.
What should I do differently? I was thinking of going to a different bar, but is everyone so friendly to each other because they go in as a group or are regulars there?
The easiest way to make your drink look alcoholic is to order it with a lemon or lime. I order Coke with lemon. It could pass as Rum 'n Coke.Poonani Maker said:Guys, this is a, great, subject. Let's face it, if we had a Lot of friends who like to go out to bars, we wouldn't be here typing. I've gone to bars 9 times outta 10 alone. The bartenders know who I am, yet here, they kinda don't give a **** that I'm always going alone. They're cool. Another thing about the water ordering. Sometimes I feel a little grumbling from a bartender if I order free water. Maybe I should tip?
I've been approached by girls a few times while sitting alone, yet next to strangers, at the bar. I'll watch TV. How do you make your drink Look alcoholic?
Is it easier to go home with girls or is it easier to have the girls come home with you?
I can Feel when a woman is there to get laid. I feel her wanting my ****.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I think Long Island is the wasteland of life in general. What an overpopulated hellhole...guywhoneedshelp said:True that; Long Island is the wasteland for sarging. I have succeeded though but it's the worst.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I was kinda drunk when I posted that, but I agree I've seen some social progress. I started out with no conversation, but last night I was making small talk with people around me. I'm just expecting too much and get pissed if I don't pull tail everytime I go out.scottfall said:It seems like your trying to force yourself to have a good time when you go out, dont do that. Go out because you want to go out not because you feel like you have to in order to be a PUA.
If you are in an antisocial mindset you have to take baby steps to being able to handle social situations. Start out slow, build new connections with your family and friends then use that same mentality to talk to people at work or at school. Once you feel good doing that meeting new people at a bar will be no big deal.
Well I took your advice, I went to a different bar and I was surprised at how many younger people were at the other bar. Granted it's farther, but I got a better vibe when I started wandering in.RantinRave said:Vanilla -
I've been reading this forum for probably over a year. I've learned a lot, but never really felt like joining. Your thread forced me to join because I absolutely needed to reply so bad.
I used to have this same debate weekend after weekend with myself. Felt as if I couldn't get my point across in the bar/club and as if girls would turn away before I could even get a 'Heeey..' in. I would confidently go up to at least 10 girls in a night and sometimes get turned down every single freakin' time. Couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.
Then, one day I was out of town and I applied the same concepts. The first girl I came across .. I hit on. During the day, no alcohol, no bar scene, and she started flirting back! I gave her my number and we hooked up the next night. It was a really great experience. So then I did it the next weekend and it was same result! This is when I actually started building up numbers!
You know what's funny - I still live in the same town and I only probably get a response from 1 out of 50 girls! Depressing, right? No! Because I know these girls are stuck up and aren't worth my time. Anywhere else I go, girls will actually enjoy the attention I give them. I would say when I get out of town I get AT LEAST 1 number for every 5 girls I talk to.
What's my point? Sometimes a local bar isn't the best. For whatever reason. No singles, not the correct age group, not a mingle scene. Try something different. I did and I wouldn't change a thing! New places are exciting and girls can tell you are having a good time. They want to be part of this good time. You can be that guy!
BTW - By my experience ... Pregaming usually does work. I mean not so hammered that you can barely hold a conversation, but drunk enough to have that 'I'm the man and everybody should know it' smile and confident look going on. Don't feel forced to spend money at $9 beer night. I used to be the 'Shot King' (major sucker) I would buy rounds for all my friends and really anyone that could tap me on the shoulder throughout the night. I'd drop insane amounts of money. I actually had to force myself to not bring any credit and only a $10 bill to the bar. This really help my focus on having a good time and hitting on girls! Not to mention I saved boat loads of money. lol.
Let me know if this helps and let us know your results!
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.