guywhoneedshelp
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True that; Long Island is the wasteland for sarging. I have succeeded though but it's the worst.Smartone84 said:3% on Long Island
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
True that; Long Island is the wasteland for sarging. I have succeeded though but it's the worst.Smartone84 said:3% on Long Island
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Depends on many factors, but you're probably right.Drewskie said:On the average, how many nights do you think a guy actually goes home with a girl, I'd say it's only about 5, maybe 10%.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
In American they don't go to their locals and ask for a pint of bitter.Jeremymichael said:why not take a newspaper to read at the bar. Chat to the barmaid or tender they normally know people to make introductions. Look relaxed
Usually people don't go sarging like us. People usually go out in groups. But you have to start somewhere. Just go out more, be talkative, value yourself, and be friendly to others.Vanilla said:Tonight I went just to enjoy myself at the local bar. I did have a good time,but didn't come home with anyone. The band played all the great songs though it was much too loud and alcohol was expensive. I've only went a few times and I'm not sure I'll go back. The whole time I felt out of place sitting among the other people who seemed to know each other so well. I couldn't come up with anything to say to anyone.
What should I do differently? I was thinking of going to a different bar, but is everyone so friendly to each other because they go in as a group or are regulars there?
The easiest way to make your drink look alcoholic is to order it with a lemon or lime. I order Coke with lemon. It could pass as Rum 'n Coke.Poonani Maker said:Guys, this is a, great, subject. Let's face it, if we had a Lot of friends who like to go out to bars, we wouldn't be here typing. I've gone to bars 9 times outta 10 alone. The bartenders know who I am, yet here, they kinda don't give a **** that I'm always going alone. They're cool. Another thing about the water ordering. Sometimes I feel a little grumbling from a bartender if I order free water. Maybe I should tip?
I've been approached by girls a few times while sitting alone, yet next to strangers, at the bar. I'll watch TV. How do you make your drink Look alcoholic?
Is it easier to go home with girls or is it easier to have the girls come home with you?
I can Feel when a woman is there to get laid. I feel her wanting my ****.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I think Long Island is the wasteland of life in general. What an overpopulated hellhole...guywhoneedshelp said:True that; Long Island is the wasteland for sarging. I have succeeded though but it's the worst.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I was kinda drunk when I posted that, but I agree I've seen some social progress. I started out with no conversation, but last night I was making small talk with people around me. I'm just expecting too much and get pissed if I don't pull tail everytime I go out.scottfall said:It seems like your trying to force yourself to have a good time when you go out, dont do that. Go out because you want to go out not because you feel like you have to in order to be a PUA.
If you are in an antisocial mindset you have to take baby steps to being able to handle social situations. Start out slow, build new connections with your family and friends then use that same mentality to talk to people at work or at school. Once you feel good doing that meeting new people at a bar will be no big deal.
Well I took your advice, I went to a different bar and I was surprised at how many younger people were at the other bar. Granted it's farther, but I got a better vibe when I started wandering in.RantinRave said:Vanilla -
I've been reading this forum for probably over a year. I've learned a lot, but never really felt like joining. Your thread forced me to join because I absolutely needed to reply so bad.
I used to have this same debate weekend after weekend with myself. Felt as if I couldn't get my point across in the bar/club and as if girls would turn away before I could even get a 'Heeey..' in. I would confidently go up to at least 10 girls in a night and sometimes get turned down every single freakin' time. Couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.
Then, one day I was out of town and I applied the same concepts. The first girl I came across .. I hit on. During the day, no alcohol, no bar scene, and she started flirting back! I gave her my number and we hooked up the next night. It was a really great experience. So then I did it the next weekend and it was same result! This is when I actually started building up numbers!
You know what's funny - I still live in the same town and I only probably get a response from 1 out of 50 girls! Depressing, right? No! Because I know these girls are stuck up and aren't worth my time. Anywhere else I go, girls will actually enjoy the attention I give them. I would say when I get out of town I get AT LEAST 1 number for every 5 girls I talk to.
What's my point? Sometimes a local bar isn't the best. For whatever reason. No singles, not the correct age group, not a mingle scene. Try something different. I did and I wouldn't change a thing! New places are exciting and girls can tell you are having a good time. They want to be part of this good time. You can be that guy!
BTW - By my experience ... Pregaming usually does work. I mean not so hammered that you can barely hold a conversation, but drunk enough to have that 'I'm the man and everybody should know it' smile and confident look going on. Don't feel forced to spend money at $9 beer night. I used to be the 'Shot King' (major sucker) I would buy rounds for all my friends and really anyone that could tap me on the shoulder throughout the night. I'd drop insane amounts of money. I actually had to force myself to not bring any credit and only a $10 bill to the bar. This really help my focus on having a good time and hitting on girls! Not to mention I saved boat loads of money. lol.
Let me know if this helps and let us know your results!
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.