Banter lines- need material

[Clockwerk50]

OP, I’m not sure why a picture is necessary, but I assume you’re looking to use it as a way to learn how to talk to women in this medium. Maybe you learn best by seeing examples, or maybe you just want a reference point to build from. Either way, you might have better luck asking on the link below or on Reddit, where people can share exactly what you’re looking for, but I am afraid you will run into the same problem.

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Also, the advice you got here is solid. Try not to dismiss it or take it as condescending; it’s meant to help. Take whatever you think will benefit you the most and run with it.

 

[Cheeky_James]

If you MUST continue relying heavily on OLD, rather than approaching out in the wild it pays to say what you want outright, with words to the effect of:

"You're remarkably alluring, both physically and mentally. Drop by (insert location and time)... I want to see, speak with, and run my hands over you, in the flesh"

Keep things concise, resist the urge to be clever-clever, and learn how to write sentences which at least appear to be the work of a psychologically sturdy, sexually confident MAN

this is kinda what I was looking for re banter tho. Tbh, a bit of banter does all that off the bat, very quickly and nicely. Shows lots of good stuff in a quick back and forth, that’s the “hack” I was looking for. I thought it was a well known hack also tbh.

Can you give some more examples and specificity of what you mean there otherwise.

Screening? How would u do it..
Passing her tests? How would u do it.
Or whatever u define as these sentences that appear to be the work of that kind of man etc

learning anything is all about specificity and small chunking . Imo.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You shouldn't need more then 3-4 messages to ask for a date and their number. If you need more than that you are doing it wrong.

 

[Cheeky_James]

You shouldn't need more then 3-4 messages to ask for a date and their number. If you need more than that you are doing it wrong.

I’m with you on that one. Shorter the better is my ideal.
Any chance I can see exactly how you do it
and post up the 3-4 messages word for word back and forth from one of your successful interactions. Much appreciated and thanks in advance.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I just started using OLD to supplement just approaching and meeting in RL

I keep the banter to a minimum. I’ve been relying on women to like me first and I’ve had a very steady stream of interest and dates.

I’ve also just started making the first move.

My m.o. is always comment on something interesting we have in common . I never like a glamor foto - always a action foto or some quote they make or something in their profile.

These women are used to and tired of hungry saps salivating over some pic at the beach or like that

I feel they really appreciate the more sophisticated and unique approach. It really is like giving candy to a kid..they gobble it up and are very responsive from the get go

my $.02

In follow up to this .
Good job on getting them to the meetup
How did the dates go with the chicks you have met online. Did they match their photos and did the dates lead on to anything further. Curious.

 

[Cheeky_James]

OP if you're not good with witty banter, you want to communicate Displays of Higher Value (DHV) instead. Find some unique, good things about you that stand out (places you've traveled, expensive toys (motorcycle, etc) you may have and upscale venues you have been to. Make a list of cool attributes about yourself and drop them throughout the convo. (i.e., the coolest lounges you've been to over the past year, and the best vacations you've taken) and act like you have recently done them to make yourself seem more interesting than you are (yes I know this is exaggerating to the point of BS, but this is online dating).

Think of your conversations as an instagram account, only use words instead of pics. And if the chick asks, no you don't have insta, you're "old school".

This should work as long as your pics aren't boring. If you project an intriguing personality or have interesting pics (you in a cool/unique/upscale location), this should work.

I can see this working to some degree yep. Depending on what the goal is . For relationships yes. Have you had many dates and how have the experiences been of the women you have met?

 

[Cheeky_James]

What he's doing is The Manosphere equivalent of what one finds among so many up and coming comics(folks who often draw all their inspiration from contemporary performers) these days, who focus myopically on developing their crowd work, under the belief that:
"Matt Rife rode to glory on TicToc footage of himself joshing with audiences*, therefore doing nothing but crowd work will be my key to success also". Goes without saying, this ignores the fact that crowd work is but one aspect of being a comic who really achieves staying power



*And even this interpretation of reality batters the facts more heinously than the number Heard and Depp did on each other, during their trash fire of a union. Sit through an actual hour of any of Rife, Gillis, et al's specials... Whatever one thinks about their work itself, these fellas DO NOT rely solely or even primairly on crowd work, same way Jimmy Carr's one-liners are ultimately just one component of his act, even if it has become the one he's most renowned for

Says the garrulous guy who urges inerrant folks on internet forums to behoove themselves away from clever clever talk for fear of falling into their feminine energy.

btw - the Old English dictionary called. it wants all its words back!

Don’t know Rife or Gillis and not Jimmy Carr. (He’s pretty good tho) I’m thinking more towards Jeff Ross or Harland Williams.. Williams is off the charts good at improv especially.
Amy Shumer or Ali Wong are also savage female roasters in the same vein.
Can’t omit the the late Norm MacDonald either . One of the GOATS all round.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Amy Shumer

 

[Cheeky_James]

LOL
Holy sh1t! a comedian recycling another comedians jokes! Shock horror!

so wait.. does this mean canned lines DO work??
.. nah, it couldn’t possibly.. could it?
But that would suggest it’s all in the delivery then.

Jeez .That’d be akin to ..comparable to…’good salesmanship’ almost.

Hmmm .. I wonder.

 

[SW15]

Based on the above exchange, your texting skills are sub-autistic level.

This is painful. Nobody can actually be this bad

It's difficult to believe that someone who is not good at text message banter would be a good real life approacher and would be good at first dates.

Charisma is evident across formats. It is possible to be better in one format than another. However, it is unlikely to have a significant disparity between texting game and one's real life charisma.

If a male comes across as odd and autistic in a text exchange, it's unlikely that the real life version is much better.

 

[Barrister]

LOL
Holy sh1t! a comedian recycling another comedians jokes! Shock horror!

so wait.. does this mean canned lines DO work??
.. nah, it couldn’t possibly.. could it?
But that would suggest it’s all in the delivery then.

Jeez .That’d be akin to ..comparable to…’good salesmanship’ almost.

Hmmm .. I wonder.

I will never understand guys like you who join this forum asking for advice and immediately just want to argue about why everyone is wrong. What is that mindset? I am genuinely curious.

Not everything you hear here is going to work for you. Some posters are better with women than others. All that is true. But if you are here just to act like no one knows what they are doing you are expending your energy for no reason because that isn't remotely the case.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I’m with you on that one. Shorter the better is my ideal.
Any chance I can see exactly how you do it
and post up the 3-4 messages word for word back and forth from one of your successful interactions. Much appreciated and thanks in advance.

I have some older posts talking about this where I have exact sequences, I would recommend doing a search on them. This was one of my strengths with OLD. I was exceptional at quickly going from messaging to meetup with a very low flake rate.

Have had a girlfriend for the past almost 2 years now so I haven't had to utilize any of it, but the same steps apply.

Essentially you are working to create a cookie-cutter model of how you handle these interactions that works in 70-80 % of cases and working on continual tweaking to get to that point and for individual interactions.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I will never understand guys like you who join this forum asking for advice and immediately just want to argue about why everyone is wrong. What is that mindset?

Models: Attracting Women Through Honesty by Mark Manson

Another thread got me thinking about this book I recall hearing about several years ago, are any of you guys familiar with it, read it? Curious what your thoughts are... Goodreads Models: Attract Women Through Honesty is a 2011 self-help book by Mark Manson that teaches men how to attract...

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Perceiving words which question one's approach/mindset as an attack, then "fighting back", as opposed to taking a deep breath, really processing.what's being said is what's "authentic"/what comes naturally to us

It's actually surprising that we don't witness even MORE of this here on the boards

 

[BaronOfHair]

so wait.. does this mean canned lines DO work??

They're like Jiu-Jitsu, Karate, "Kung Fu", Krav Maga, BJJ, and everything else that's been hailed as The Unbeatable Fighting System... Sooner rather than later, folks recognize that you're relying on a schtick, then develop powerful countermeasures

 

[Cheeky_James]

I have some older posts talking about this where I have exact sequences, I would recommend doing a search on them. This was one of my strengths with OLD. I was exceptional at quickly going from messaging to meetup with a very low flake rate.

Have had a girlfriend for the past almost 2 years now so I haven't had to utilize any of it, but the same steps apply.

Essentially you are working to create a cookie-cutter model of how you handle these interactions that works in 70-80 % of cases and working on continual tweaking to get to that point and for individual interactions.

agree 1000%.
It’s a no brainer to me to do it that way.
I’ll search back through your older posts thanks

 

[Cheeky_James]

Models: Attracting Women Through Honesty by Mark Manson

Another thread got me thinking about this book I recall hearing about several years ago, are any of you guys familiar with it, read it? Curious what your thoughts are... Goodreads Models: Attract Women Through Honesty is a 2011 self-help book by Mark Manson that teaches men how to attract...

www.sosuave.net

Perceiving words which question one's approach/mindset as an attack, then "fighting back", as opposed to taking a deep breath, really processing.what's being said is what's "authentic"/what comes naturally to us

It's actually surprising that we don't witness even MORE of this here on the boards

It’s good you posted that book up.
Both Mansons book (be authentic) and most ‘seduction system ‘ books will both talk about being relaxed and teasing /bantering with a chick.
***that’s the key bit***

which is what I came her hoping to get some tips on.

Most of the responses so far have been anti-banter tbh, which is bizarre.

As it’s mentioned in pretty much ALL the books.

IDK wtf is going on . Im just tryna stay on topic of the OP .

apparently it’s ME that’s got the problem now
- as I won’t take the “solid advice “ that has nothing to do with what I asked for in the first place.

 

[Sega Genesis]

LOL
Holy sh1t! a comedian recycling another comedians jokes! Shock horror!

so wait.. does this mean canned lines DO work??
.. nah, it couldn’t possibly.. could it?
But that would suggest it’s all in the delivery then.

Jeez .That’d be akin to ..comparable to…’good salesmanship’ almost.

Hmmm .. I wonder.

You seem to be doing pretty well at holding your own and bantering on this thread, quick with the comebacks, confident in your cause, c0cky etc.

Why not apply that same c0ckyness to your interactions with women?

Keep the c0cky attitude but replace the defensiveness with humor and your set!

Just a thought....
.

 

[Cheeky_James]

They're like Jiu-Jitsu, Karate, "Kung Fu", Krav Maga, BJJ, and everything else that's been hailed as The Unbeatable Fighting System... Sooner rather than later, folks recognize that you're relying on a schtick, then develop powerful countermeasures

yes , or like The Game /Mystery Method.
Which works far, far better than Mansons Models to actually get results and get laid. As it’s ALL in the delivery.

get this (May blow your mind)
If I go up to a chick in a bar and say the most Schticky line shes heard 10 times that night . It doesn’t matter. IF she likes the look of me as I’m standing there close to her. It’s just a vehicle to get me close to her. She would hopefully roll her eyes and say “ugh lame, heard it 10 times, ur a cheesebag” or somesuch,,now then if I can come back with a better answer and crack her up.. it’s all gravy baby.

It doesn’t matter- its all just a setup to start the bantering and read her signals back to me.

 

[Cheeky_James]

You seem to be doing pretty well at holding your own and bantering on this thread, quick with the comebacks, confident in your cause, c0cky etc.

Why not apply that same c0ckyness to your interactions with women?

Keep the c0cky attitude but replace the defensiveness with humor and your set!

Just a thought....
.

lol. Thanks. Well yeah.. of course.
That’s why I posted the question here in the OP, to try get some bits to work with.
No one wants to share ! Haha.

 

[Sega Genesis]

lol. Thanks. Well yeah.. of course.
That’s why I posted the question here in the OP, to try get some bits to work with.
No one wants to share ! Haha.

I get that but even if someone gave you some canned lines, they may not 'work' because no one knows what SHE is texting.

Good, fun communications is spontaneous, she says something, you respond, she responds etc etc

A canned phrase another man used may come off awkward and contrived because again no one knows what she is texting that requires a response from you.

You have to play it by ear and go with the moment, again you've done pretty well with your quick comebacks here (albeit a bit defensive) so you DO have it in you to do same in your interactions with women..

Why not have a bit more faith in yourself and again simply go (respond) in the moment?

Depending on what SHE texts, play with her, tease her, rib her a bit!

I can tell immediately when a phrase is canned or out of some player's manual lol. Versus spontaneous 'in the moment'.

And it's a big turn off....

$.02