"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DJ in training checking in. As I have been doing more approaching lately and becoming an overall more social guy I learn more and more that woman make great actors. That doesn't really have anything to do with my question, but a story first.

This has been in my head for a while. It really isn't a big deal, but I really can't stop questioning it for some dumb reason. I did some volunteer work at a children's carnival about 3 weeks ago trying to get 25 hours in 4 days for school (ended up with 30-36) ANYWAY, I knew there would be plenty of chicks my age doing it with me so this would be a perfect time to talk to some HB's. I meet a few girls but one in particular I really hit it off with. (HB 8) Early on it was general small talk with this and that, but I eventually started up some kino. I thought this was going very well and she was very receptive. I wasn't with her the whole time but it got to a point where I can just turn my head in her direction and got a big ass smile every time. Later on she just starts "bumping" into me and in my head I knew I was golden. I would have made a move but with kids and parents around me the entire time I didn't think it would be such a good idea. I get her number and we go our seperate ways. About 4 days later I call and no answer. No biggie, she has a life. Call again 2 days later, no answer; leave a message. That was the last time I called her and she never called back.

It is no suprise to any of us that woman might not call you back and were just being nice by talking; but seeing how into me this chick was kind of threw me for a loop. Was I just played for attention? No major AFC mistakes that I can think of. Broken phone? :eek:

Whatever. I just had to let that one out. I have gotten 3-4 numbers since then but out of all the chicks she seemed the most intrested.

Talk to me. Hell, this might be some form on oneitis I don't even realize.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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what kind of kino did you do?
 

Upside

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Mostly light touching here and there but there was a moment when i grabbed her from behind and started to toss her around a bit. It is actually how I got her number. I told her I would let go if she gave it to me.

I'm debating texting her or not. Probably not.
 

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Upside said:
I'm debating texting her or not. Probably not.
Trust me from experience...DON'T DO IT. It's gonna make you look more desperate, needy, thinkin too much and put her on a pedestal. It sucks that she didn't call back but the truth is...

IF THE GIRL WAS INTERESTED, SHE WOULD'VE SAID SOMETHING BY NOW....

The good thing about this was you learned a lesson that you should never put all your concentration on one chick. Just keep that in mind and continue to play the field. You'll be fine.

- Kingbeef
 

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detach from outcome call back a week later, if no answer, call back a week later, then again in a couple of weeks. you don't know her circumstances. I've had this numerous times and there are a million reasons for it. Usually what you'll find is (assuming you interpreted the situation correctly) she will break up with her boyfriend and answer and be so happy to hear from you.. could be one of a number of factors but DETACH FROM THE OUTCOME and call every week or so. one call, no messages...too easy :)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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