"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Balancing the need to lead and to be a challenge

SmoothTalker

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Hey, just something I wanted to discuss.

We all know that its vital to always lead in relationships with women. However, we also know the benefits of being a challenge, and how sweet it is when she is the one chasing you.

But these two ideas are slightly conflicting. If you take the lead and pursue her, she is no longer chasing you.

If you stay a challenge and make her work for you, she has the initiative and is the one leading, to an extent.

What have you guys found to be the ideal balance?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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These are two different concepts that work in harmony w/ each other in my opinion. You take the lead by showing her what it is that you want, but you STILL lead by letting her know you don't need it. Women DO want men who will confront them head on. Women DON'T want men who need women.

For instance, you see a woman out at the club who catches your eye. Without hesitation you take the lead and introduce yourself. You get to know each other for a few minutes, then tell her that it was nice meeting her and maybe you'll talk later. Effectively, you just showed her that you lead because you don't need her company the whole night. You have other things to do, places to be. But now at least she knows that theres some attraction between you and her. Hell, you just approached her and she doesn't have a goddamn clue who you are; shes thinking he must have some attraction towards me, but hes not really going out on a limb to get me in the sack- I should get to know him better so he does want to get me in the sack!

No, but really. Leading doesn't have to mean hanging on a woman. It simply means being confident in yourself and doing what it is you want to do.
 

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What you say makes sense. However I was not really thinking about the club approach context as much as with girls you know better. Specifically, for example there is a girl you have been going no contact on because of a previous issue, and now they are actively chasing you. You're considering giving them another chance but having them making the effort is working well so far, you don't want to lose that by changing your behaviour and suddenly trying to schedule a date with them.

Should you agree when they basically ask you out? I'd say yes, but then that's giving them the lead.
 
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