"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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shotgunbob

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Hey guys. A big problem of mine is that Im bad at conversation. If there are three people present, and other parties are putting new topics and ideas in a discussion, I can talk for days and Im ****ing hilarious. But one on one, particularly with girls, I have nothing to say! And when I try to think of fun, interesting things to say, I get even more mentally congested and it ends up being an awkward dead silence. What do you guys think would help? Or what do you guys do to aid conversations?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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rocco

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wow, im like the total opposite. im better in one on one conversations, but suck at group conversations.
 

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Do the same thing. Find random stuff to talk about, and add in the personal questions.

Really, 1on1, or 1on2 is the easiest to grab ideas from, because you have the focus. Try asking a girl in a group of 10 a personal question, it'll divert off real quick.
 

isoman2kx

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not that it's "constructive" advice.... but i'm the same way.

i notice it everyday in chemistry, got a few of my friends, and we're friends with a few of the girls in there.

we'll go to ihop and **** after class, or just shoot the **** in class.. can talk pretty well.

i'm not paralyzed when it comes to one on one conversation, it's just a difference that pisses me off some.

if i get some pointers, i'll post :p
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Looks like I posted some good shyt back in the day.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=91202&highlight=conversation - Pickups, Naturally. Directly in line with conversation.

And Wham...I kept this guy's link for a reason. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77974&highlight=peacocking - Natural Game vs. Indirect Routine-based Game

Two links to get you started (well, three)!! :)
-My formatting seems to be permament.. :(
--Another edit, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=77988, same guy, but he has a whole slew of stuff.
 

Vypros

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Forget about what YOU have to say, she doesn't really care anyways.

Rather, ASK QUESTIONS. Make a list of like 30 questions you could ask a girl and memorize it. When the conversation dies, resort to your list and go through it.

I promise you, that by the end of the night she'll find you to be the absoulte greatest conversationalist ever.
 

Kev07

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there is one big difference between talking one on one and talking in groups

talking one on one=conversation
talking in groups=story telling, debate, joking

the key difference in those things is taht in a conversation, LISTENING is the most important part, where as when you talk in groups, you can just talk about random stuff all day long and it will go on forever, if you talk about random stuff in a one on one conversation, then it will just lead to awkward silence all the time.

this also means that the girl has to cooperate, and if she likes you she will, if she's giving lots of close ended answers, then either she's an idiot or is not interested, next her
 

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conversations should be 80-20 and instead of bombarding her with questions you should think of some interesting topics that you know a lot about and r funny
it makes u look smart and interesting
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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