"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hey guys been a member for a long time and have not ever posted here. Back in 2006 I used the forum to get some decent game before I met my g/f of the past 2 1/2 years. We just broke up and I am dumb founded because it seems like it has been so long and I am not quite ready to move on but I am. Anyways, My cousin and I were in starbucks the other day and I saw this attractive young lady (i am 25 btw). I said to myself I am going to talk to her, then it hit me, I started getting nervous and doubting myself. I ended up not doing it because I chickened out, the rest of the night i kept kicking myself in the ass because I have never had the issue of talking to people. I am in sales for god sakes! Anybody have any tips to keep me from doing this again, I know I can do it I still cannot find out why I froze! Also where is good places to meet girls because I live in vermont...... seems like the barren waste land with snow, it seems like everywhere I go there are highschool girls everywhere but nobody my age. I do not want to go the bar route but maybe I can pick up some pointers to help me pick up girls at the bar.

Thanks in advance,
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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showoff3civic said:
I do not want to go the bar route but maybe I can pick up some pointers to help me pick up girls at the bar.
I have 3 field reports on here from the bar in the last 3 weeks, I don't feel like finding them, haha. But maybe you can do a search.

Well, since you've been out of the game for a while, it might take a bit of effort to find your old self again. Just go out and practice as often as you can. Different approaches work differently for everyone, but I have found that it seems like situational openers work great for most.

With situational openers, you can usually pick out anything from you're environment.

For example, that girl at starbucks. You could have walked up to her and said "Hey, I'm in the mood for something sweet, what coffee do you recommend?" When she gives you her opinion, then perhaps you could have asked "What do you like about that one?"

These are OPEN ENDED questions, she can't answer with a yes or no, they work great. Plus they let her talk about herself and her own opinions, which women love doing. And after these two lines you can usually switch the conversation up into anything you want. If things go well, you throw in some flirty lines.

Once you realize how easy it is, you'll wonder why you ever thought it was hard. You may always be nervous, but you can still always get better!
 

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Dannyrt34 said:
I have 3 field reports on here from the bar in the last 3 weeks, I don't feel like finding them, haha. But maybe you can do a search.

Well, since you've been out of the game for a while, it might take a bit of effort to find your old self again. Just go out and practice as often as you can. Different approaches work differently for everyone, but I have found that it seems like situational openers work great for most.

With situational openers, you can usually pick out anything from you're environment.

For example, that girl at starbucks. You could have walked up to her and said "Hey, I'm in the mood for something sweet, what coffee do you recommend?" When she gives you her opinion, then perhaps you could have asked "What do you like about that one?"

These are OPEN ENDED questions, she can't answer with a yes or no, they work great. Plus they let her talk about herself and her own opinions, which women love doing. And after these two lines you can usually switch the conversation up into anything you want. If things go well, you throw in some flirty lines.

Once you realize how easy it is, you'll wonder why you ever thought it was hard. You may always be nervous, but you can still always get better!
good words thanks for the advice, tomorrow im going hunting hehehe see what there is downtown. I will try your advice since i love starbucks so much!
 
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showoff3civic said:
Anybody have any tips to keep me from doing this again, I know I can do it I still cannot find out why I froze! Also where is good places to meet girls because I live in vermont......
Danny's right. Just use the world around you and "feel her out." Unless she's giving you signals that she's already interested in you (staring, playing with the hair, standing extremely close to you), say something that will allow you to gauge her level of interest in you. Even if its just "Hello" and a smile. If she shields herself away, she's not interested. If she is just friendly, proceed (she could be interested or maybe she's just being polite. If she becomes flirty, definitely proceed.

Although Vermont is small, I've definitely messed around with some VT females :rockon: (Burlington to be exact).

You'll get it. Just keep practicing and stay social
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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showoff3civic said:
good words thanks for the advice, tomorrow im going hunting hehehe see what there is downtown. I will try your advice since i love starbucks so much!
Haha. Good luck bud! Keep us updated. We'll be here to listen if things go well (or bad).
 
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