Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Yeah I tried different kinds of things. Eventually it was more trouble than it was worth. Interactions aren't fun and I like to just go straight to sex. Hard to do that with approaches. Much easier using online.
London model? Decline? What are you talking about?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Oh I know. Not moving in with a girl again. Unfortunately I think some women might break things off if they don't see it moving to that stage.
That's the thing though. If all you care about is the goal then of course the process just becomes an annoying obstacle. I focused on how to enjoy the process without thinking about the goal, but I happened to reach the goal way more often and had fun while doing it.
Who doesn't? The problem with OLD is you are prey to catfish and dating app algorithms. I am not saying don't. I am saying source in every manner possible. I always did better approaching but its work. So is the time to get cat fished.
Google is your best friend.
+1
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
ime it’s the only way that has worked for me. I can’t genuinely enjoy what you are suggesting.
comply or bye is exactly what I do.
Fair enough
I don't know how many more times a guy has to be told to approach. OLD is low T. The algorithm panders to women. I am not saying don't do it. My D won't suck it self. I am saying, you may as well buy your own casket now if OLD is your only means of sourcing baeeeeee. Not doing it right kuz!
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
That question and other like it are just boring, it does absolutely nothing. It pushes no buttons, elicits no reaction, it doesn't make her feel anything. Not being a beta doesn't necessarily mean they find you interesting. Could be hard to fix this one since you dislike the process.
Because I do need to get laid. Anyhow you guys are obviously biased towards your own methods. I was hoping this forum could teach me how to grow in my natural style but it's just another seduction site telling me to do things YOUR way which I have already said hasn't ever worked for me.
I can't tell you what's your way. No matter what I say it will be my way. If your way is what works for you then just keep doing more of that then. It seems you already have your answers.
I was in a 10 year relationship. 14 months. You'll be fine.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This is golden.
Personally I find sending nudes or "talking" about sex pretty useless before you meet them. First you gotta meet up asap so that you can both determine if real life attraction is there. Then that's when you can go for the kill. There's not too much hamstering she can do if you do things in real life and in real time. As they say, talk is cheap.
I’ve already ****ed this girl.This is golden.
Personally I find sending nudes or "talking" about sex pretty useless before you meet them. First you gotta meet up asap so that you can both determine if real life attraction is there. Then that's when you can go for the kill. There's not too much hamstering she can do if you do things in real life and in real time. As they say, talk is cheap.
Girls will say anything and do the opposite all the time. But it's a lot harder for them to be fake in real life. "Talking" about sex through chatting is like being on OnlyFans except you're not paying for it monetarily, just paying for it with your time.
Attention wh0res chat like that online to 100 other guys and it doesn't mean she's going to go through with it. This gal probably got your d1ck wet and wasted your time over nothing.
Well if you already fvcked this girl I don't really see the problem you're having. You're doing what worked for you and you're seeking advice on what exactly?
I want to improve my results. Get higher quality women, and keep improving. Like I said in my OP I’m looking to get more.
Take more shots /thread
I once dated a girl who had a family farm. She's feminine but physically strong. That work is legit.This is golden.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.