"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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aww sh!t it's another valentine's day thread - 2x the trouble

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Well ... the retarded day is almost upon us and this year I have 2 plates to deal with. Now we ARE supposed to get a hardcore snow storm which could prevent me from leaving the house (oh God please please please), but I can't rely on weather. I don't think either of these girls are expecting much since I've only been seeing them a few weeks, but I'm thinking it might be a good idea to say or write or do a little something nonetheless. Nothing expensive or big, just a little attention tidbit. What are you guys doin? And how do I handle em both if they each decide they want to hang out that day? And if we can't (weather permitting again please God), what can/should I do instead?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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md3sign said:
Well ... the retarded day is almost upon us and this year I have 2 plates to deal with. Now we ARE supposed to get a hardcore snow storm which could prevent me from leaving the house (oh God please please please), but I can't rely on weather. I don't think either of these girls are expecting much since I've only been seeing them a few weeks, but I'm thinking it might be a good idea to say or write or do a little something nonetheless. Nothing expensive or big, just a little attention tidbit. What are you guys doin? And how do I handle em both if they each decide they want to hang out that day? And if we can't (weather permitting again please God), what can/should I do instead?
Don't serve dinner on spinning plates.
 

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so it's best not to do or say anything about it? what if it comes up during or after the fact like "why didn't you get me anything blah blah"?
 

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so it's best not to do or say anything about it? what if it comes up during or after the fact like "why didn't you get me anything blah blah"?
Tell her she didn't earn it yet...it's not just C+F, it's TRUE! Until she meets all your standards and expectations, she gets squat. Until then, she's just a girl you're seeing from time to time.
 

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i have this same trouble...i'm not sure if I should call her up on Vday or if I should just let it pass like any other day
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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