"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Average looking women who are a huge turn on.

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What does voice have to do with anything? I noticed that a woman's voice (a particular type) can really get me going.
 

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starfishandcoffee said:
What does voice have to do with anything? I noticed that a woman's voice (a particular type) can really get me going.
There's no doubt that women with more "womanly" voice (think Disney cartoon princesses), are more feminine.... Their voice (in a brutally slimmed down scientific explanation) sounds like that because they lack testosterone. Which is exactly what makes them more feminine/passive/submissive.
 

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starfishandcoffee said:
What does voice have to do with anything? I noticed that a woman's voice (a particular type) can really get me going.
There's a woman I work with that sounds like a phone sex operator when you talk to her on the phone. She's not even hot.
 

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zekko said:
I don't think the OP was attracted to the girl because she average. More like in spite of it. There was something about her, she had some sort of quality that made her sexually attractive. I know exactly what he's talking about.
Zekko, that's exactly what I mean.

Look, I have the hots for a 10 like any other guy and average
looking women have redeeming qualities I'm willing to look over.
I've had many LTRs with average women.

This girl is VERY average....yet I'm turned on as if she IS a 10.
Every time I see her, I want to tear off her clothes and go to town and
I'm getting the signals she'd be all for it if she wasn't married.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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average is sexy because it is attainable. That's all to it.
 

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PapiChulo said:
average is sexy because it is attainable. That's all to it.
If that were all it was, then every average woman would be sexy.
What's going on is that some women have something about them that pushes your buttons, even if they might not be considered classic beauties. It's chemistry or something. I'm surprised more guys here haven't experienced this.

To clarify, these women aren't ugly, so don't mistake that. I'm thinking he's probably talking about maybe a 6.

I'm wondering if this is something akin to what average guys who are successful at pickup achieve. "He's not that good looking, but there's something about him that's really sexy....". Some sort of animal magnetism, that sort of thing.
 

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^^ Agreed. Pheromones all the way.

You don't even know that that is what you are picking up on......

It's animal instinct.....Scent....... Chemistry.

I hope you fooked her like the wild Zebra she is.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
I've been attracted to plenty of average or slightly better than average chicks.....

This might sound completely strange to everyone in this thread:

But when asked what attracts me most about a woman: my answer is normally her sexual vibe... I can almost sense how they'd be in bed.... Hell, i can almost tell you what her pvssy looks like before ever seeing it.... A lot of this is physical features and the way she caries herself, combined with her bubbliness, etc. But I just call it her "sexual vibe".

It works in opposite ways too. I remember there was this girl I worked with. Probably (at least) a HB8 in the average man's eyes. Blonde hair, blue eyes, on the tall side, nice body; had done some amateur modeling..... She was VERY into me..... So much so, that one of my co-workers said to me, "You better hit that man, she's falling all over you." My answer was, "nah... I'll pass... She's too boring in bed."
Doesn't sound strange to me at all: you can often make a good guess at what she'll be like in bed just from the way she carries herself. If she looks like she's probably the type to grudgingly blow you and then just lay there like a dead fish then it doesn't matter how to me hot she is. If she's lively and energetic in her everyday then she's probably just as so on the mattress.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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