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Giovanni Casanova
Your right.
Your right.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
personally i dont believe atheism is really real.
they just think it is real until they "find god"
just my two cents
they just think it is real until they "find god"
just my two cents
Rollo Tomassi
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I think a more interesting angle on introducing religion to intersexual relationships is how willing we are to compromise our personal beliefs for the intimacy of someone else. How many guys have converted to evangelical christianity in order to hook up with some girl he thought was the ONE? How many women have considered becoming a confirmed Catholic or go to a Jewish synagogue to better identify with a guy they thought was husband material?
I tell you, it's that powerful. We do it all the time for a good piece of ass.
I tell you, it's that powerful. We do it all the time for a good piece of ass.
SELF-MASTERY
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rollo, that's a future issue that I will have to deal with if I ever get married.
tatlongxxx
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thanks to all of you guyz.
still i dont have religion right now, but i believe in God existence. For me believing in God, is also to have a piece of mind. This Girl wants a miracle for her to believe. I dont care bout them, they actually want to kill themselves. they got a brain disease. They must combine to form a demon.,.,, hahahaha what a crap!
she cannot forget her past, she cannot forgive herself by fcking his own brother. and she wants to be a hor like her mother.
still i dont have religion right now, but i believe in God existence. For me believing in God, is also to have a piece of mind. This Girl wants a miracle for her to believe. I dont care bout them, they actually want to kill themselves. they got a brain disease. They must combine to form a demon.,.,, hahahaha what a crap!
she cannot forget her past, she cannot forgive herself by fcking his own brother. and she wants to be a hor like her mother.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
tatlongxxx
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just want to add something about their male friends.
Is it ok if your GF met a male friends? Then get closely connected?
Is it ok if your GF met a male friends? Then get closely connected?
SELF-MASTERY
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Most of the DJ's
here would suggest acting aloof and pretending that you do not care. Because it is a sign of insecurity and jealousy is the fear of losing one's companion.I think quite lowly of girls who hate other women and claim that they have platonic relationships with all 5 of their close male friends. If it were my girl I would tell her that her relationship with other men makes me uncomfortable. She'll probably ***** about you not trusting her. If she doesn't understand, I would NEXT her.
May not be the best option for me, but I know what I want. A guy has the right to choose .
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Ah, the ongoing debate of creation vs.evolution. This is a debate that will never be resolved for these reasons.
1. Spiritual people demand the disproof of a supreme being from the atheist.
2. The atheist demand scientific or physical proof of a supreme being from the spiritual ones.
"No man who ever lived knows any more about the hereafter ... than you and I" Edgar Allen Poe
Neither group can, and never will, produce enough evidence to persuade the other. This is the reason that The constitution of the United States gave all Americans the right to religous freedom without persecution. This is the reason for speration of church and state. This is also the reason for protection of religous persecution in the workplace as stated in the equal opportunity employment act.
All US currency has "In God We Trust" printed on it somewhere. That gives some people of faith the argument that the US was founded by god fearing men of faith. However, here are a few quotes from founding fathers, former Presidents, and other famous Americans:
John Adams, U.S. President, Founding Father of the United States
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
"Lighthouses are more helpful then churches."
Thomas Jefferson
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity." Notes on Virginia, 1782.
James Madison, American president and political theorist (1751-1836).
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, Famous Atheist & Quotessuperstition, bigotry, and persecution."
"In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people."
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."
Abraham Lincoln, American president (1809-1865)
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
William Howard Taft, U.S. President
"I do not believe in the divinity of Christ, and there are many other of the postulates of the orthodox creed to which I cannot subscribe."
Thomas Edison, American inventor (1847-1931)
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end."
People are going to believe what they want to. In my opinion there is no right or wrong when it comes to faith or non-faith. There is only right and wrong when it comes to our actions towards others. Thats how I judge people, by actions towards others.
In the words of Albert Einstein ""If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."
Anyway, thats my rant. I could go on and on with this subject for days, but like I stated earlier, it really makes no difference.
Hypoxia II
1. Spiritual people demand the disproof of a supreme being from the atheist.
2. The atheist demand scientific or physical proof of a supreme being from the spiritual ones.
"No man who ever lived knows any more about the hereafter ... than you and I" Edgar Allen Poe
Neither group can, and never will, produce enough evidence to persuade the other. This is the reason that The constitution of the United States gave all Americans the right to religous freedom without persecution. This is the reason for speration of church and state. This is also the reason for protection of religous persecution in the workplace as stated in the equal opportunity employment act.
All US currency has "In God We Trust" printed on it somewhere. That gives some people of faith the argument that the US was founded by god fearing men of faith. However, here are a few quotes from founding fathers, former Presidents, and other famous Americans:
John Adams, U.S. President, Founding Father of the United States
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
"Lighthouses are more helpful then churches."
Thomas Jefferson
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity." Notes on Virginia, 1782.
James Madison, American president and political theorist (1751-1836).
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, Famous Atheist & Quotessuperstition, bigotry, and persecution."
"In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people."
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."
Abraham Lincoln, American president (1809-1865)
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
William Howard Taft, U.S. President
"I do not believe in the divinity of Christ, and there are many other of the postulates of the orthodox creed to which I cannot subscribe."
Thomas Edison, American inventor (1847-1931)
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end."
People are going to believe what they want to. In my opinion there is no right or wrong when it comes to faith or non-faith. There is only right and wrong when it comes to our actions towards others. Thats how I judge people, by actions towards others.
In the words of Albert Einstein ""If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."
Anyway, thats my rant. I could go on and on with this subject for days, but like I stated earlier, it really makes no difference.
Hypoxia II
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No, they combine to form Voltron.
Aztec
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Re: Re: atheism
Yeah really! Didn't Allen appoint people to redirect threads to their appropriate sections?
Yeah really! Didn't Allen appoint people to redirect threads to their appropriate sections?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Hypoxia II
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Probably the best response yet. :crackup:
Francisco d'Anconia
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I was going to stay away from this thread until someone told me to read it just to find out your response. Yeah, it was worth it.
ApocalypseCow2
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Salon has an article up about atheist Richard Dawkins. I thought their image for the article was funny:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/cover.jpg
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/cover.jpg
iveyleeger
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Dawkins is brilliant. I highly recommend "The Selfish Gene." Great way to forget about women and dating and expand your brain.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
That's the best line I've seen for ages, on what is, let's face it a fairly screwed up forum nowadays.
So what you are saying is 'GOD' is more tangable than someone deciding they don't believe in a God.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
From time to time I come across a woman who wouldn't date me because I'm agnostic. More times than not they equate that with atheism. I've realized that I'm better off not trying to explain the difference to them, they're often already set in their beliefs.