at what point in your life did you decide youve had enough with women and take the red pill? was it after marriage or after dating a string of BPD women and the media and so on promoting men to be lesser or a combination off all?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
at what point did you decide youve had enough
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Took the red pill after my BPD trainwreck.
Been on my own for 18months and love it. Love being by myself and happy in my own company.
Do what I want when I want and no one tells me what to do ever
Earned a shedload of cash during this time and own my own house and business and drive a top end car.
Couldn't have done it with a crazy on my arm or any other chick probably as they would have been a distraction.
I realise I was too much of a people pleaser. No more.
Taken out a few chicks but realise I don't need them as I have so much going on with work and hobbies. I don't owe anyone a cent and couldn't give a tosss about my ex or any other pretty woman which is a bit worrying??!
I Know I will never get married again ( as someone said if you had 100K would you invest in a business which had a 50% chance of failing would you? NO.
well marriage is the same....50% chance of failing...
Be independant and embrace life. Look after no.1 and that is you.
Money might not make you happy but it does give you freedom and options.
So get out there and make it.
That's something to strive for surely?
Been on my own for 18months and love it. Love being by myself and happy in my own company.
Do what I want when I want and no one tells me what to do ever
Earned a shedload of cash during this time and own my own house and business and drive a top end car.
Couldn't have done it with a crazy on my arm or any other chick probably as they would have been a distraction.
I realise I was too much of a people pleaser. No more.
Taken out a few chicks but realise I don't need them as I have so much going on with work and hobbies. I don't owe anyone a cent and couldn't give a tosss about my ex or any other pretty woman which is a bit worrying??!
I Know I will never get married again ( as someone said if you had 100K would you invest in a business which had a 50% chance of failing would you? NO.
well marriage is the same....50% chance of failing...
Be independant and embrace life. Look after no.1 and that is you.
Money might not make you happy but it does give you freedom and options.
So get out there and make it.
That's something to strive for surely?
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
What's your line of business, Peak?PeakIV said:
To answer the OP's question, this is how it unfolded for me as well. I've always had pretty good luck pulling attractive women, but a terrible track record holding them down or picking quality women. I have a tendency to gravitate toward hot and crazy. Eventually, after getting shafted repeatedly, the reality started sinking in that it was probably something with me that needed to change.PeakIV said:
The BPD experience was a huge eye opener which brought me to SoSuave, and SoSuave showed me the errors of my ways. The rest is history.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I realised that I would never commit myself to another woman again after my marriage breakdown 7 years ago. I didn't know it at the time but looking back, all relationships that I have had after that faltered because of my lack of commitment.
I'm happy the way that I am and happy with my life. I enjoy my own company and never feel lonely. To a certain extent I think we are conditioned into believing that we should "be with somebody"
I'm happy the way that I am and happy with my life. I enjoy my own company and never feel lonely. To a certain extent I think we are conditioned into believing that we should "be with somebody"
bluenorther
Senior Don Juan
At my age, 59, the women who interest me are few and far between. I had bypass surgery to save my life 3 1/2 years ago, and it took a lot out of me. I was in no mental condition for dating for a long time. Nowadays I mostly want to mind my own business, and not get worn out by life. I have a FWB, but she's not much on the 'B' part; she gets off with her b-o-b, but men just can't do it. I don't need Viagra to drill her properly, either!
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Knight's Cross
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Sosuave showed me the wrong in my ways. I was messing with BPD madness, found this place, took red pill, rest is history. I certainly don't look at women the same now. I was jaded for awhile. Now I just accept women and their ways. Some are better, some worse. You can usually spot the markers pretty easily if you are red pill aware. What bothers me is the # of guys that are still wired into the matrix. We would experience a resurgence in proper lady behavior if as a whole men didn't put up with all the feminism brainwash. Granted that would take men being men and not sitting around playing video games.
KC
KC
There are a lot of posts about BPD, but in my experiences I have not really met many. Maybe I have the added advantage of being exposed to a family member ( non blood related) who was diagnosed with Bi Polar disorder, and i saw the absolute horror that followed. its almost second nature to be able to pick out the behavior at this point and have avoided those types of women like the plague. Just last week I met up with a 29 year old and recognized immediately what I was getting into and ran, and ran fast.
"I will no longer pursue this" was my exact words.
As far as the red pill is concerned, I have kind of had a ton of negative experiences which has slowly eroded my tolerance towards womens ****. I have enough potential options here so that one strike and they are out, and I delete their numbers. Sometimes I tell them, but most of the time I just move on. Its not that I walk around with this egotistical mindset that I am a fake prize ( fake PUA crap), but rather that its simply not worth the time. Furthermore, there are plenty of great women who ARE worth the time so its worth it to sacrifice some sex in order to meet the good women who put in the time, effort, and kindness that makes a healthy relationship. I am worth it, and she has to be worth it too!
"I will no longer pursue this" was my exact words.
As far as the red pill is concerned, I have kind of had a ton of negative experiences which has slowly eroded my tolerance towards womens ****. I have enough potential options here so that one strike and they are out, and I delete their numbers. Sometimes I tell them, but most of the time I just move on. Its not that I walk around with this egotistical mindset that I am a fake prize ( fake PUA crap), but rather that its simply not worth the time. Furthermore, there are plenty of great women who ARE worth the time so its worth it to sacrifice some sex in order to meet the good women who put in the time, effort, and kindness that makes a healthy relationship. I am worth it, and she has to be worth it too!
zekko
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There's a big difference between Bipolar Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder (which is usually what the guys here on the forum are talking about when they say BPD). However, they are both very serious conditions, and I would stay far away from any women with either.synergy1 said:
I do have a good friend who is Bipolar however. And while he has remained a good friend, his life has most definitely been marked with tragedy.
There is something missing from someone with real bipolar. It is as if they simply can not derive any sort of pleasure out of life. You can't reach them in any way. Its a very wierd feeling that I know well, and can sniff one out from a mile away. Case and point was this chick I met last weekend - she even said that we should hang out again ( she even dated professional athletes and was pretty hot) but I blatantly said no. I suspect many "alpha males" here would have said yes and gone down that road.zekko said:
And thanks for the differentiation. What is boarderline personality disorder? Is that chronic lying and cheating?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.