"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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At what age did you lose your virginity and who was she?

Mulder138

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I'm just curious to hear about guy's experiences and if it was good or a letdown or neither and if it was a gf, one night stand or whatever.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well considering a lot of guys find this site because they're whatever age and a virgin, I don't think it's irrelevant.
 

SickAgain

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I'm saying how what difference does other people's devirginizing moment matter to you? It won't help you get any and you can't use their lives as a standard for your own. You could probably find out anyways if you search past threads if it matters.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I don't know if you've ever got laid or are currently getting laid, but it doesn't matter anyway. You either are a virgin or at some point were a virgin. And if you're not, I bet the girl didn't say "Have sex with me" or "F--- me." There was probably some awkward moments leading up to it, unless you went to an escort or something.
 

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You just layed out every possibility of my sex life. It seems like you want to know about losing virginity and the awkwardness at accompanies it. Right? If not you just went on a tangent that is unrelated to who and when.
 

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16 years old me and my buddies ran a train on this biitch one of my friends knew. Never saw her again. It was some crazy **** because at first i had trouble getting up, so my buddies suggested putting crisco on me to get my self up. LOL being the goof troop kid i was back in those days i poured crisco all over my stomach down to my penis.

Definitely a priceless moment in my child hood. I've got so many stories of the goofy guy i used to be. It's quite funny to laugh at yourself from time to time:cool: :p
 

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"It seems like you want to know about losing virginity and the awkwardness at accompanies it. Right?"

Correct.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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2 javanese 25 year old college girls in bali
 

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Alphamale1821 said:
16 years old me and my buddies ran a train on this biitch one of my friends knew. Never saw her again. It was some crazy **** because at first i had trouble getting up, so my buddies suggested putting crisco on me to get my self up. LOL being the goof troop kid i was back in those days i poured crisco all over my stomach down to my penis.

Definitely a priceless moment in my child hood. I've got so many stories of the goofy guy i used to be. It's quite funny to laugh at yourself from time to time:cool: :p
:rockon: for running trains on b1tches! another :up: for crisco!
 

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Mulder138 said:
I'm just curious to hear about guy's experiences and if it was good or a letdown or neither and if it was a gf, one night stand or whatever.
I was 31.

It was your Mom.
 

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Dongfu said:
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**** man. i hate javanese ppl
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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19...some random girl......not as good as hyped about...but to be fair....she did absolutely nothing...
 

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In all seriousness our stories about when and with who we lost our V-cards doesn't matter!

I assume you're asking because you are a virgin. Well listen man, no matter what our stories are, yours is probably going to be way different. Maybe younger, maybe older. Maybe she'll be younger or older than the GIRLS we first laid. Doesn't matter. Just go in confident your first time. Maybe not confident in your skills but confident as a man who is gonna learn to to "git r done".
 

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Alphamale1821 said:
16 years old me and my buddies ran a train on this biitch one of my friends knew. Never saw her again. It was some crazy **** because at first i had trouble getting up, so my buddies suggested putting crisco on me to get my self up. LOL being the goof troop kid i was back in those days i poured crisco all over my stomach down to my penis.

Definitely a priceless moment in my child hood. I've got so many stories of the goofy guy i used to be. It's quite funny to laugh at yourself from time to time:cool: :p
God brings back memories of my old days...lol, this would've probably been the way I lost my virginity if it weren't for my friend. Basically a chick who liked me lived next door to my friend I was 12/13. I rang her doorbell and she came out in some booty shorts, I remember my friend pushing me in there and she closed the door. Were in the hallway and at first I was alittle scared to escalate. (lol) She says I'm the first guy to be in her house and not try anything, she grabs me dik. I tell her to take her bra off so I can see her breast. Then she said I have to doa quickie with her because her mom should be home soon. (It was crazy and fun)

But lately all my brother friends who are like 13-17 they go to one of my old friends and run trains on chicks. I remember one of the 13 year old kids asking my friend to bring some girl to the house so he can try to fuk her.

Brought back memories because before when I was a natural, most of my lays came from running trains. Now though I have a different mindset and would never do it again.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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