"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Asking A Girl Out Over Aim (or any instant mesg type)

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Naaa man I do, I met her when I was hanging out with a friend of mine.

Edit: Is it just me or does everyone suck balls this bad when there first getting there feet in the water. I missed out on a lot, im trying to get to where I should be, only had one gf and that was like a whatever situiation when I was like 13 or 14.
We all have our bad moments. Most of us can blame ignorance, but in this case, everyone told you to do the exact opposite of what you ended up doing. Kinda retarded, gj nuking your chances.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ya guys know what? The girl told the friend of mine on the bus that she wants to go out with me. Huh huh. Yea, follow your heart, no one on this site posts advice knowing every factor in the situiation. I'm shocked, however if this works or dosen't is fine with me. OMG I can't believe it im shocked.
 

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She also said she wants to see me on friday...alone.


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Dare to disagree with me but what i'm personally starting to notice a few times now is text as in an instant message or text message will trigger much more emotion or just as much as talking to a girl in person or by phone. This is true because with text, its always there, it can be read again and intrepted any way. From the few times that ive noticed, your gonna get much more of a reaction if you make a quick compliment to a girl by texting them compared to saying it to them personally. Shure the second way is better but the texting im'ing whatever is going to trigger much more emotion because she will interpert it much more deeply.
 

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BBX said:
Dare to disagree with me but what i'm personally starting to notice a few times now is text as in an instant message or text message will trigger much more emotion or just as much as talking to a girl in person or by phone. This is true because with text, its always there, it can be read again and intrepted any way. From the few times that ive noticed, your gonna get much more of a reaction if you make a quick compliment to a girl by texting them compared to saying it to them personally. Shure the second way is better but the texting im'ing whatever is going to trigger much more emotion because she will interpert it much more deeply.
No. A text/IM means next to nothing, because it's not a person saying it. It's letters. Pixels. It's not personal, it's not real, it carries no emotion (typying "LOL" doesn't count as an emotion) it's not memorable. Maybe they could go back and read it over and over and over to interpret it more deeply. But you're kidding yourself if you think that actually will read it more than once.

What do you think, they're going to save it to a txt file, print it out and ponder it in their bubble bath?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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S1NN3R said:
No. A text/IM means next to nothing, because it's not a person saying it. It's letters. Pixels. It's not personal, it's not real, it carries no emotion (typying "LOL" doesn't count as an emotion) it's not memorable. Maybe they could go back and read it over and over and over to interpret it more deeply. But you're kidding yourself if you think that actually will read it more than once.

What do you think, they're going to save it to a txt file, print it out and ponder it in their bubble bath?
I see your point and im not against what your saying but its just that text has more meaning than you precieve it to have. And hs girls are fvcking nuts, obsessed with texting and saving aim conversations, it has more meaning to it than you think. An aim conversation is precieved as a real face to face conversation in real lif and so is texting. A myspace comment means s#it. Thats the way I see how it works, take it as you want.
 

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The way that I see this working is that you're more comfortable AIMing or texting, and you're searching for validations that make your preference more acceptable to you. The reason that I think this is because despite that fact that everybody who initailly responded to this post told you not to ask her out via these methods, you did it anyway.

I'm telling you man, unless you write like Herman Melville, you're not going to elicit any lasting emotions with written communication, at least not in the attraction stage. Sure, maybe once you've been dating a while, then you can actually make them feel something. But during the preliminary stages, when you're just getting to know them, non-personal contact is detached from your actual self. Like I said before, it's not you talking to her, it's just words. One of the keys that the really successful employ is not just what they say, or even how they say it, but that those things are bonded to them. When a girl thinks about what you said, she's also thinking about what you looked like, what you smelled like, your posture, your air of control, all of the litle things that are involved while you were saying something. When she's reading something you wrote, obviously, you're not there. She doesn't bond the words she's reading with you, at least not nearly as much as when she is in your presence. Even over the phone, you are controlling your tone and tempo enough that what you say is ingrained in her mind with you. You simply cannot do that with writing. If you could, you'd be writing NYTimes best-sellers, not hanging out on a forum. :D

You can pique her interest, but you are not going to forge any emotional connection, and that is the idea.
 
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