"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ask her to do something for me

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ok, quick intro. I was, and still, and AFC, working on the way out. This girl, in friend zone. Anyway, i just wanna try if this can work.

I am not feeling well so i din go for work today. So I plan to ask her to buy something for me to eat for dinner today, after her office hour. She would have to traffic jam all the way, and she dunno exactly where is my place. The lift here is also not working, so she might have to walk up the staircase. All this would generate frust I guess. Anyway, the reason i plan to do this is to see if she is just totally using me or she could actually do something for me. Also, to make her invest her time and energy on me. I will not do anything, not kino, nor showing any sexual indication but just ask her to buy me something to eat then just send her home. Because I dun wan her to put her guard up everytime she visit me, since this is the first time she visit my place.

Please kindly comment if this is actually AFC or the plan cant work, or anything need to change? Thank you.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I will not do anything, not kino, nor showing any sexual indication but just ask her to buy me something to eat then just send her home.

Forget that. You should try to lay the girl when you have the chance, not send her away for no reason. Making her do something is ok, but don't ask, tell. Then give it your best shot, make a move and try to have sex with her, or at least kiss her. Either she will or she won't, but if she rejects you, then you get a little better next time.
 

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ok, here's how it goes.

I text her. "If you drive today, pack me something to eat after work, like porriage. I m home. Thanks."

She replied "Ha? What are you talking about?" :trouble:

I then replied after 30 minutes, "Not feeling well. I will ask somebody else to pack me something to eat."

After 5 minutes, "I got someone to pack me something to eat. No need trouble you. Thanks anyway."

Ok, just sharing the experience. Dun repeat my mistake, i guess. Or better, someone can point out which part is going wrong and we can learn from it.
 

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That's WAY too much to ask from a girl that isn't your loving, caring gf, especially as a first favor.

Try asking her to pick up a quarter for you or something, jeebus.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yeah, perhaps you are right. Thats why she suddenly 'what are you talking about?' I was trying to create little drama actually, am i misinterpret drama? Anyway, this is kinda too deep into friend zone, so ... you know what thats one-itis stuff ... :eek:
 

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Stop text-messaging her. That's what girlfriends do. Call her for 2-3 minutes to set up an in-person meeting, then get off the phone and don't talk to her until you meet.
 
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