"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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escaleraroyal

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I dont know if she works or study. Not sure about her schedule at all. How would you ask her out?
I don't want to ask her out in a time where she is going to have conflict with her schedule nor I don't want to sound desperate. e.g.
me: I pick you up on Thurdsday at 8PM
she: No I'm busy.
me: How about Friday 12PM
she: No, I'm busy.
me: Sat?
she: Maybe
me: OK I pick you up at 6PM
she: Sorry I'm busy at this time.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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read the ****ing rules:



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As we all know, this forum is designed to further assist you along your way to becoming a DJ. At certain times in our lives, things happen that we feel obligated to question - a girl's reaction to something you said or did that left you baffled, a technique you've just read about that you would like to have further clarified, or any manner of a number of other topics. Of course, you wouldn't make a new thread unless the subject mattered to you... so show us that it matters.

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Her interest level is low. If she liked you she'd make time or at least give you another time and date. If a women says she's busy never ask for another time right after.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You're thinking about this way too much. Decide on a time and ask her if she's free at that time (for example lunch at 12:30 on Friday) and if she isn't, ask her what her schedule looks like. If you think you're going to get rejected, you probably will, because you're setting your mind up to be rejected, and you'll emit all kinds of nervous behavior. Be more positive about it. The worst that can happen is she'll say no, and then you find that you don't have to waste any more time on a woman that isn't interested.
 

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OK called her and suggested Thursday at 8PM. She thought about it for 10 seconds and she says to call her on Wed. I said OK and said bye.
 

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Sounds like she's checking for better offers.
 

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She says is she busy. I said It's Ok maybe next time. Really sucks.

I feel like **** now.

I will get more numbers this week.
 

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She says is she busy. I said It's Ok maybe next time. Really sucks.

I feel like **** now.

I will get more numbers this week.
So.... What did you learn from this?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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escaleraroyal said:
I think cause i just met her she is scared to go out with me.
So what's the plan for next time around?
 

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escaleraroyal said:
call her next time i guess or get more numbers on the street.
Don't call her. That road has been destroyed in a mudslide.

Go find new targets.

Maybe explain your initial encounter, what was it like? That way you can get some better feedback. However, sorry to say she lost interest. Maybe you didn't capture her thoughts after you #closed her as much as you should have. Or you waited to long to call her, so she simply lost interest over time. Or you came off as being needy and she was trying to gently let you down, but you failed to pick up on the social communication hints.
 

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escaleraroyal said:
call her next time i guess or get more numbers on the street.
You're going to do the same thing again, the same way? What do you expect will happen the next time?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco, you sound like u know. tell me what to do?
btw, I went to the supermarket today. Did 3 approaches but they was not interested as they didn't ask questions back.
 

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escaleraroyal said:
Francisco, you sound like u know. tell me what to do?
btw, I went to the supermarket today. Did 3 approaches but they was not interested as they didn't ask questions back.

you gotta establish more rapport...

perhaps she just wasnt feeling u... no biggy.. plenty of fish out in the sea... :)
 

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What usually works for me, is to ask her when she works/ goes to school. After that say for example "Hey I'm free on Thursday night too, we should hang out." Or something similar......I personally use "Hey, I'm free Thursday night as well, and I am going to my favorite restaurant, you should join me."
 

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escaleraroyal said:
Francisco, you sound like u know. tell me what to do?
btw, I went to the supermarket today. Did 3 approaches but they was not interested as they didn't ask questions back.
Have you changed your approach or are you doing the same thing?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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