"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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escaleraroyal

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I dont know if she works or study. Not sure about her schedule at all. How would you ask her out?
I don't want to ask her out in a time where she is going to have conflict with her schedule nor I don't want to sound desperate. e.g.
me: I pick you up on Thurdsday at 8PM
she: No I'm busy.
me: How about Friday 12PM
she: No, I'm busy.
me: Sat?
she: Maybe
me: OK I pick you up at 6PM
she: Sorry I'm busy at this time.
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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read the ****ing rules:



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As we all know, this forum is designed to further assist you along your way to becoming a DJ. At certain times in our lives, things happen that we feel obligated to question - a girl's reaction to something you said or did that left you baffled, a technique you've just read about that you would like to have further clarified, or any manner of a number of other topics. Of course, you wouldn't make a new thread unless the subject mattered to you... so show us that it matters.

From this point on, threads lacking details, mainly those with only 1-2 sentences in the body, will be deleted as soon as a moderator comes across them - as will threads that are just wildly stupid or unreadable. The reason for this isn't that we're spiteful, or that we hate people making new threads... but as you would agree, if something matters to someone enough to take up a part of the forum by posting it, they should show that it matters to them by giving whatever it is they are proclaiming some thought before creating the threads. There is no room on here for threads like the following:
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Her interest level is low. If she liked you she'd make time or at least give you another time and date. If a women says she's busy never ask for another time right after.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You're thinking about this way too much. Decide on a time and ask her if she's free at that time (for example lunch at 12:30 on Friday) and if she isn't, ask her what her schedule looks like. If you think you're going to get rejected, you probably will, because you're setting your mind up to be rejected, and you'll emit all kinds of nervous behavior. Be more positive about it. The worst that can happen is she'll say no, and then you find that you don't have to waste any more time on a woman that isn't interested.
 

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OK called her and suggested Thursday at 8PM. She thought about it for 10 seconds and she says to call her on Wed. I said OK and said bye.
 

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Sounds like she's checking for better offers.
 

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She says is she busy. I said It's Ok maybe next time. Really sucks.

I feel like **** now.

I will get more numbers this week.
 

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escaleraroyal said:
She says is she busy. I said It's Ok maybe next time. Really sucks.

I feel like **** now.

I will get more numbers this week.
So.... What did you learn from this?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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escaleraroyal said:
I think cause i just met her she is scared to go out with me.
So what's the plan for next time around?
 

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escaleraroyal said:
call her next time i guess or get more numbers on the street.
Don't call her. That road has been destroyed in a mudslide.

Go find new targets.

Maybe explain your initial encounter, what was it like? That way you can get some better feedback. However, sorry to say she lost interest. Maybe you didn't capture her thoughts after you #closed her as much as you should have. Or you waited to long to call her, so she simply lost interest over time. Or you came off as being needy and she was trying to gently let you down, but you failed to pick up on the social communication hints.
 

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escaleraroyal said:
call her next time i guess or get more numbers on the street.
You're going to do the same thing again, the same way? What do you expect will happen the next time?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Francisco, you sound like u know. tell me what to do?
btw, I went to the supermarket today. Did 3 approaches but they was not interested as they didn't ask questions back.
 

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escaleraroyal said:
Francisco, you sound like u know. tell me what to do?
btw, I went to the supermarket today. Did 3 approaches but they was not interested as they didn't ask questions back.

you gotta establish more rapport...

perhaps she just wasnt feeling u... no biggy.. plenty of fish out in the sea... :)
 

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What usually works for me, is to ask her when she works/ goes to school. After that say for example "Hey I'm free on Thursday night too, we should hang out." Or something similar......I personally use "Hey, I'm free Thursday night as well, and I am going to my favorite restaurant, you should join me."
 

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escaleraroyal said:
Francisco, you sound like u know. tell me what to do?
btw, I went to the supermarket today. Did 3 approaches but they was not interested as they didn't ask questions back.
Have you changed your approach or are you doing the same thing?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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