PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
RedZone, do a search of all of my posts - this should suffice and give you all the answers to your questions!!
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
ASF vs. Don Juan
- Thread starter RedZone122
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
Definately need to bump this ****.
organizedconfusion
Master Don Juan
ASF seems to have more aggressive and direct way
to getting meeting girls & getting laid, quick.
they also seem to be more concerned with alpha/beta
type stuff.more extroverted and social based.
they are more concerned with sheer quantity and
outcome based.They get a kazzillion girls because
they approach soo many!! C'mon, you pick up a
girl at a bar/club, i doubt she thinks you're bringing
her home to see you "beer cap collection" or play Nintendo.
DJing seems to do more with romancing/seducing a paticular
girl over an extended ammount of time. i also may assume that
alot of Dj's are more introverted and more of a passive
approach to meeting woman and are more likly to
meet girls in regular social settings. Usually on coincidence
and without the useage of canned lines or techniques.
bookstores, grocery markest, pet shops etc.
the attraction starts in a more "naturalized" way, with
either a sexual or friendly context.
i am more this way then anything else and i'd much rather
be with one girl and completly fill her mind with my
image and long for my prosence when i am not around
then be with all sorts of girls i really have no interest in.
Personally i would'nt even want to be with a billion girls,
i'd much rather have 1 i really got along with and felt a connection with.
of course alot of PUA's would call that BETA behaviors and
thinking, but don't get it twisted. If my wife were to
get had by anyone of those guys i'd have to hang him out to
dry and i'd show him how a real man handles buisness.
it all comes down to your goals-
do you want to be with as many girls as you could possibly
be with as fast as possible?
or do you want a half a dozen of so, passionate/intense,
extended relationships over the course of your life?
picking up is about getting laid-plain and simple.
seduction is about making someone fall in love...
getting laid by as many different girls seems EGO based,
there is void in the EGO that needs to be filled.
Validation of masculinity and male sexual identity.
seduction seems to be motivated by filling the EMOTIONAL gap.
somewhere along the lines in life ,there was a strong
absense of LOVE and it triggered an intense void to be filled
WITH love, usually from a cold/distant mother-or a overbearing mother.eitherway it may have triggered sub-concious desires to
"control" her or "seduce" her love from her..okay , this is getting a lil hokey...enough Freudian shyte!
these are totally different styles ,one is direct and one is passive.
one is fast & furious and one is long and drawn out over an extended period of time.
one channel is full of really short and intense 30 minute sitcoms.
the other is a 6 hour epic masterpiece that comes along once in a great while but is worth the wait.
find out what your motives are
to getting meeting girls & getting laid, quick.
they also seem to be more concerned with alpha/beta
type stuff.more extroverted and social based.
they are more concerned with sheer quantity and
outcome based.They get a kazzillion girls because
they approach soo many!! C'mon, you pick up a
girl at a bar/club, i doubt she thinks you're bringing
her home to see you "beer cap collection" or play Nintendo.
DJing seems to do more with romancing/seducing a paticular
girl over an extended ammount of time. i also may assume that
alot of Dj's are more introverted and more of a passive
approach to meeting woman and are more likly to
meet girls in regular social settings. Usually on coincidence
and without the useage of canned lines or techniques.
bookstores, grocery markest, pet shops etc.
the attraction starts in a more "naturalized" way, with
either a sexual or friendly context.
i am more this way then anything else and i'd much rather
be with one girl and completly fill her mind with my
image and long for my prosence when i am not around
then be with all sorts of girls i really have no interest in.
Personally i would'nt even want to be with a billion girls,
i'd much rather have 1 i really got along with and felt a connection with.
of course alot of PUA's would call that BETA behaviors and
thinking, but don't get it twisted. If my wife were to
get had by anyone of those guys i'd have to hang him out to
dry and i'd show him how a real man handles buisness.
it all comes down to your goals-
do you want to be with as many girls as you could possibly
be with as fast as possible?
or do you want a half a dozen of so, passionate/intense,
extended relationships over the course of your life?
picking up is about getting laid-plain and simple.
seduction is about making someone fall in love...
getting laid by as many different girls seems EGO based,
there is void in the EGO that needs to be filled.
Validation of masculinity and male sexual identity.
seduction seems to be motivated by filling the EMOTIONAL gap.
somewhere along the lines in life ,there was a strong
absense of LOVE and it triggered an intense void to be filled
WITH love, usually from a cold/distant mother-or a overbearing mother.eitherway it may have triggered sub-concious desires to
"control" her or "seduce" her love from her..okay , this is getting a lil hokey...enough Freudian shyte!
these are totally different styles ,one is direct and one is passive.
one is fast & furious and one is long and drawn out over an extended period of time.
one channel is full of really short and intense 30 minute sitcoms.
the other is a 6 hour epic masterpiece that comes along once in a great while but is worth the wait.
find out what your motives are
I_Only_Live_Once
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Organizedconfusion: although the tactics on ASF may be targetted towards short term lays, you can just slow it down can't you? Instead of pushing to seduce her, just take it at a slower pace if you want a relationship.
Exactly, I use it as a template. It can be called a "toolbox" where it is a set of resources at my disposal.Originally posted by So pimp its scary
I occasionnally use what could be considered SS patterns, and I've seen the transformations that using that speaking style can have on a woman... There is no way that it has been thoroughly discredited, the problem with SS is that you are using canned lines and scripts to evoke emotion in the woman your talking to.
Where I differ is that I'm not using scripts, but rather a 'template' that is used to make the scripts, this way it can be adapted to ANY situation.
Very true.Originally posted by wolfie
My point about being healthy wealthy and successful and still not being able to get women is addressed at one of the primary values of sosuave that too many people believe - the assumption that if you concentrate on these areas of your life, women will magically fall into your arms and you'll become a 'DJ'. So many people here think that ASF is therefore shallow and ineffective because it concentrates purely on relationships and getting the girl.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.