"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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article: The “Uneven” Nonmonogamous Marriage - I agreed to open our marriage for my husband. He’s loving it. I am not.

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My libido is higher than ever: I want him all the time. But I still just only want him. And I’m jealous and anxious about his dating all the time. He’s very reassuring that he’s not going to leave me (and I believe him), but I miss feeling special, like I was the only one he wanted or felt this way about. I get moody when I see him texting other women, sending them selfies, and flirting.
my opinion: Wifey only desires hubby for his ability to attract other women, but doesn't want him to actually do anything there. Solipsistic hypergamy!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I mean if this is what works for both parties then OK. But if it doesn't then just get a divorce. This will not end well for either side.
 

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Dunno how it will play to this crowd, but a really good Netflix series that covers this particular story arc is "Easy". The open-marriage storyline intersects a bunch of other ones, but it's the anchor of the series and, IMO, does a pretty good treatment of it.

The biggest thing in the series that irked me was how they portrayed OLD as a piece 'o cake for attracting quality matches.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Dunno how it will play to this crowd, but a really good Netflix series that covers this particular story arc is "Easy". The open-marriage storyline intersects a bunch of other ones, but it's the anchor of the series and, IMO, does a pretty good treatment of it.

The biggest thing in the series that irked me was how they portrayed OLD as a piece 'o cake for attracting quality matches.
So watch Netflix story "Easy"?
 

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This the thing. This article is to get more guys to agree to it because 90% of men will be BLOWN OUT and CVCKED in a open scenario.
I agree. This is one of the few guys who can do an open relationship well. In most open relationships, the woman is getting more sex and more partners outside the relationship and the guy is a cvck.
 

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I agree. This is one of the few guys who can do an open relationship well. In most open relationships, the woman is getting more sex and more partners outside the relationship and the guy is a cvck.
He's gotta be a serious stud to do this... So much so that his attention draws her in and she is more worried about what HE is doing than getting side dyck.
 

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When a sheep dog gets a taste for sheep... the farmer can’t train that taste out of him... he will end up killing sheep every chance he gets until the farmer has no choice but to put the dog down. That’s what will happen to the relationship. One person will enjoy it, the other won’t. The one that enjoys it won’t stop and the relationship will ultimately come to an end as a result.
 

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This the thing. This article is to get more guys to agree to it because 90% of men will be BLOWN OUT and CVCKED in a open scenario.
Wow this is a very good point. I gotta remember this—how they only make the man look good here so that they can cuck men even more in this society RIP this was a seriously good catch. Can’t believe I didn’t see it.

I’m glad that this is actually a change in pace for once tho, all other stories about this stuff is cuck **** which I just don’t fly with. Props to my homie on the other side of this slaying like no other tho, he’s ballin
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Wow this is a very good point. I gotta remember this—how they only make the man look good here so that they can cuck men even more in this society RIP this was a seriously good catch. Can’t believe I didn’t see it.

I’m glad that this is actually a change in pace for once tho, all other stories about this stuff is cuck **** which I just don’t fly with. Props to my homie on the other side of this slaying like no other tho, he’s ballin
Just assume whats being pushed modern day is cuck, double standards and entitlement.
 

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The Slate article posted is actually a change of pace on the media narrative towards open relationships and open marriages. There have been some articles posted online in fairly major outlets in recent years encouraging men to open the relationships so that their wives can cuck them.

The interesting thing about this article is that the man wanted to open the marriage. I'm not convinced that the woman really wanted to open the marriage, but it seems like the husband was more alpha than beta, which is why she agreed to the open marriage paradigm. I think she may have assessed that an open marriage with an alpha-ish guy was better than a monogamous relationship with a boring beta male. I'm also surprised that she has not had sex with other men in the open marriage. Even if she's 35+ and has lower SMV, she still shouldn't be having as much difficulty as she is.

When a woman wants an open relationship, she's going to have numerous side men. When a man is the primary force behind an open relationship, the equation is going to be equal at worst, and often favor the man.
 

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I think she may have assessed that an open marriage with an alpha-ish guy was better than a monogamous relationship with a boring beta male.
There was a survey that was done with females at one point where most admitted that they'd rather share an alpha guy then to stay monogamous with a beta. I forgot where to find that article.

From a real life perspective, I have ran across this 3 times in my life where the gal basically told me that she doesn't care if I dated other people but that she was going to stay monogamous with me and that they would like for me to use condoms with other gals.
 

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MAJOR CONFESSION: I was really thinking twice about posting this but I'm currently in a similar situation as the article. That's all I'll say for now as I have gotten non-believers and others bashing me before when I tried to open up about this on another forum some time ago.
 

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MAJOR CONFESSION: I was really thinking twice about posting this but I'm currently in a similar situation as the article. That's all I'll say for now as I have gotten non-believers and others bashing me before when I tried to open up about this on another forum some time ago.
Yeah, ethical non-monogamy is a third rail in most circles, I've found that out the hard way as well. I'll say I've found it somewhat puzzling that tacit non-monogamy (aka, Spinning Plates) is embraced here, but ethical non-monogamy is not, despite being arguably very close on the spectrum.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I've run around with a lot of poly and swinger couples and I can confirm that in 90% of them its the female that gets all the extramarital action, not the male. The reality is that there are alot more attractive females than males at every age level. Add in the fact there are also a lot more men who will bang anything and it's a recipe for the "hotwife" scenario where she plays and he watches (if he's lucky)

Also there is tons of jealousy and cheating even within the confines of an "open" relationship so it doesn't really help with regards to those issues either.
 

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I've run around with a lot of poly and swinger couples and I can confirm that in 90% of them its the female that gets all the extramarital action, not the male. The reality is that there are alot more attractive females than males at every age level. Add in the fact there are also a lot more men who will bang anything and it's a recipe for the "hotwife" scenario where she plays and he watches (if he's lucky)

Also there is tons of jealousy and cheating even within the confines of an "open" relationship so it doesn't really help with regards to those issues either.
DO you think a cucked male will keep a image of vitality and strength and good looks if he started into a cvck situation with those traits?
 

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MAJOR CONFESSION: I was really thinking twice about posting this but I'm currently in a similar situation as the article. That's all I'll say for now as I have gotten non-believers and others bashing me before when I tried to open up about this on another forum some time ago.
I've been in similar situations as well, although I was usually the wife's boyfriend. I would be the main boyfriend of as many as 4-5 wives at once and none of them cared. In fact, I even managed to enjoy an occasion threesome when I could get a couple of them together, since most of them were bi. Its fun and very validating but not something I could have done for the rest of my life or anything.
 

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DO you think a cucked male will keep a image of vitality and strength and good looks if he started into a cvck situation with those traits?
Its possible. Every relationship is different. Some men just watch, some actively participate, some like to take pics/video and some aren't allowed to be there at all during sexual encounters. I think the most common thing I experienced was a couple that had been together a while and the wife had aged much better than the husband. The husband viewed this as a way to keep her happy and to stay together. There's also a real phenomenon of guys who enjoy watching another man treat his wife like a dirty little slvt. Can't tell you how many times I was told by couples they wanted me to treat her in a manner her hubby never could, whether that meant bondage, being very aggressive or whatever. I did get the feeling most of the wives loved their husband, but didn't really enjoy the sexual aspect of their relationships with them. The usual "nice guy" thing we've all read about on here is a real thing and a lot of married men are allowing it to ruin their sex lives.

As far as your specific question, I really never met a husband with those characteristics. Strength, vitailty and good looks are in short supply in the swinger world, especially among the men. That's why most women go with single men. If youre looking for a night of passion, why trade in your married guy for another one just like him?
 

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Its possible. Every relationship is different. Some men just watch, some actively participate, some like to take pics/video and some aren't allowed to be there at all during sexual encounters. I think the most common thing I experienced was a couple that had been together a while and the wife had aged much better than the husband. The husband viewed this as a way to keep her happy and to stay together. There's also a real phenomenon of guys who enjoy watching another man treat his wife like a dirty little slvt. Can't tell you how many times I was told by couples they wanted me to treat her in a manner her hubby never could, whether that meant ****, being very aggressive or whatever. I did get the feeling most of the wife's loved their husband, but didn't really enjoy the sexual aspect of their relationships with them. The usual "nice guy" thing we've all ready about on here is a real thing and a lot of married men are allowing it to ruin their sex lives.

As far as your specific question, I really never met a husband who those characteristics. Strength, vitailty and good looks are in short supply in the swinger world, especially among the men. That's why most women go with single men. If youre looking for a night of passion, why trade in your married guy for another one just like him?
No they won't. A man starved of sex over time carries alot of stress and LOOKS like a sexless man. Its not a good look.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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