article: How Tinder “Feedback Loop” Forces Men and Women into Extreme Strategies

[MatureDJ]

How Tinder “Feedback Loop” Forces Men and Women into Extreme Strategies

The first study of swiping strategies on Tinder shows just how different male and female mating behavior can be.

www.technologyreview.com

“Our findings suggest a ‘feedback loop,’ whereby men are driven to be less selective in the hope of attaining a match, whilst women are increasingly driven to be more selective, safe in the knowledge that any profiles they like will probably result in a match,” say Tyson and co.

One end point from such a feedback loop is that men will end up liking all the women they see, while women will be guaranteed a match every time they like somebody. In that case, Tinder will effectively be broken.

 

[SW15]

Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge are all shiit.

 

[member160292]

I'm sure Tinder must have broke and company is dissolved now.
That report is from 2016

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge are all shiit.

Never tried Tinder but Bumble and Hinge were quite good for me.

 

[Bigpapa]

women are not doing way better than men

but yeah , if you are not above average in looks it is kinda useless ( both men and women )

Unfortunately for guys who do not have an advantage in the looks department , they have to rely on seduction in the real world , to maximize their chance

 

[SW15]

The article is from 2016, which is ancient by the standards of swipe apps. I can say that there is still some relevance to the article.

There is a dangerous feedback loop on swipe apps. It all comes down to the shiit match percentages for most men.

I think most men go into swipe apps with a decent plan. They originally swipe on women that meet whatever criteria they have. The problem starts when they swipe a lot, have few matches, and even fewer conversations and dates. Then, in order to salvage the effort, men will often drop their standards to up the number of matches. This leads to bad outcomes.

The top tier of men will do the best when they drop down. A 8+ man will end up banging a bunch of women in the 5.5-6.5 range but never committing to them because why would he? If an 8.5 man wants to commit, a 6 isn't going to be it. He wants to commit to an 8-8.5 woman, but maybe he's not getting their attention. The guys who are 6-7 are dumpster diving and are stuck with 4.5-5.5 if they want to get their penises wet.

Swipe apps are a great way to mate down.

 

[Bigpapa]

The article is from 2016, which is ancient by the standards of swipe apps. I can say that there is still some relevance to the article.

There is a dangerous feedback loop on swipe apps. It all comes down to the shiit match percentages for most men.

I think most men go into swipe apps with a decent plan. They originally swipe on women that meet whatever criteria they have. The problem starts when they swipe a lot, have few matches, and even fewer conversations and dates. Then, in order to salvage the effort, men will often drop their standards to up the number of matches. This leads to bad outcomes.

The top tier of men will do the best when they drop down. A 8+ man will end up banging a bunch of women in the 5.5-6.5 range but never committing to them because why would he? If an 8.5 man wants to commit, a 6 isn't going to be it. He wants to commit to an 8-8.5 woman, but maybe he's not getting their attention. The guys who are 6-7 are dumpster diving and are stuck with 4.5-5.5 if they want to get their penises wet.

Swipe apps are a great way to mate down.

from experience , I can tell you that you do get matched with the 7+ women, just not as often

the main problem with this women is that they are not active on the apps to begin with , as they have things going on in the real life

I am trying a new strategy , basically trying to get the 6-7 range girls out for a coffee or some drinks at a bar , and use them as a bait for the 8+ ones

by coming with at least with a decent looking girls to a place you become pre selected , which is very important tool in the arsenal

way Better results than going to a place alone or with a friend

that it is why it is super important for guys to realize that the odds all the time are against them , and think about ways on how to game the system

even for Normal looking guys , if you go out with a 5 , you will have a better chance to get the 6 or the 7

just because the odds are against you , it does not mean that you should accept being a loser . That is the main difference between an alpha and a beta

 

[Bingo-Player]

The article is from 2016, which is ancient by the standards of swipe apps. I can say that there is still some relevance to the article.

There is a dangerous feedback loop on swipe apps. It all comes down to the shiit match percentages for most men.

I think most men go into swipe apps with a decent plan. They originally swipe on women that meet whatever criteria they have. The problem starts when they swipe a lot, have few matches, and even fewer conversations and dates. Then, in order to salvage the effort, men will often drop their standards to up the number of matches. This leads to bad outcomes.

The top tier of men will do the best when they drop down. A 8+ man will end up banging a bunch of women in the 5.5-6.5 range but never committing to them because why would he? If an 8.5 man wants to commit, a 6 isn't going to be it. He wants to commit to an 8-8.5 woman, but maybe he's not getting their attention. The guys who are 6-7 are dumpster diving and are stuck with 4.5-5.5 if they want to get their penises wet.

Swipe apps are a great way to mate down.

When i was active on them i was finding exactly this happening

i was matching with 6,7's and some 8's but often the only ones that would actually be keen to meet was the 5-6's

I ended up in a scenario where i would invite what i would have assume was a 6.5 over for sex when she arrives she is more like a 5-5.5 due to photoshopping and i would have to spend most of the evening trying to get rid of her

In the end i decided i was devaluing myself and wasting time

Now i am with an actual 8 whom i met in real life

 

[MatureDJ]

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women are not doing way better than men

but yeah , if you are not above average in looks it is kinda useless ( both men and women )

Unfortunately for guys who do not have an advantage in the looks department , they have to rely on seduction in the real world , to maximize their chance

It's OVER for 10thPercentileCels.

 

[SW15]

It's OVER for 10thPercentileCels.

It never really began for a male in the 10th percentile. A male in the 10th percentile is likely overweight/obese, acne-ridden, a neckbeard, and a man without a good paying job.

Tinder isn't worth doing unless you are 90th percentile or higher. You need to 6'0"+ with six pack abs and/or big arm muscles. Shirtless pics of the abs are highly recommended. If 30+, then a higher earner too in addition to the physical requirements.

 

[Bigpapa]

It's OVER for 10thPercentileCels.

you have to aim very low in order to be in the bottom 10%

 

[Am Shaegar]

My biggest issue with dating apps in Europe is that the pool for women using them simply isn't big enough, even if you install all of the big names together and don't apply any kind of quality ranking to the women. I could never test the numbers game strategie of online dating because of that. Remove all the fake accounts, the instagram and only fan sluts, the escorts and crypto scamers and you are maybe left with around 500 active women across all platforms that are in reasonable travel distance. Apply any kind of quality ranking to those 500 active women and you exclude more than 70% even if it's just basic things like "no hamplanets" and you are left with some 150ish women. At that point you basically have to customize your profile for this very specific pool of individuals and your energy is better spent at messaging these girls personnally on social media or cold approach them in the street.

 

[Bigpapa]

It never really began for a male in the 10th percentile. A male in the 10th percentile is likely overweight/obese, acne-ridden, a neckbeard, and a man without a good paying job.

Tinder isn't worth doing unless you are 90th percentile or higher. You need to 6'0"+ with six pack abs and/or big arm muscles. Shirtless pics of the abs are highly recommended. If 30+, then a higher earner too in addition to the physical requirements.

you can still have some sort of a success , even if you are not top 10%

but for sure you can not rely on tinder to have a good sex life

 

[Zimbabwe]

My biggest issue with dating apps in Europe is that the pool for women using them simply isn't big enough, even if you install all of the big names together and don't apply any kind of quality ranking to the women. I could never test the numbers game strategie of online dating because of that. Remove all the fake accounts, the instagram and only fan sluts, the escorts and crypto scamers and you are maybe left with around 500 active women across all platforms that are in reasonable travel distance. Apply any kind of quality ranking to those 500 active women and you exclude more than 70% even if it's just basic things like "no hamplanets" and you are left with some 150ish women. At that point you basically have to customize your profile for this very specific pool of individuals and your energy is better spent at messaging these girls personnally on social media or cold approach them in the street.

This does not get talked about enough, the actual pool of dateable women on Old is extremely low, compared to the Hordes of men on these apps.

 

[MatureDJ]

you have to aim very low in order to be in the bottom 10%

Yes, I had intentionally aimed to be at 2%-ile in height.

 

[Bigpapa]

Yes, I had intentionally aimed to be at 2%-ile in height.

then it is game over man , you should become a monk

 

[Slowhandluke]

Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge are all shiit.

They are all hookup apps. And remember women control sex - when to engage, with whom, etc. Therefore women control the apps and men do not.

Other than looks, apps do not show the other qualities of a man - persistent, diligence, fore thought, rational thinking, etc..

Apps are built for failure for all genders. Nobody is happy with them.

 

[SW15]

They are all hookup apps.

And remember women control sex - when to engage, with whom, etc. Therefore women control the apps and men do not.

Agree. Bumble and Hinge try to market themselves as more relationship oriented and less hookup but I doubt that's working well.

Other than looks, apps do not show the other qualities of a man - persistent, diligence, fore thought, rational thinking, etc..

Apps are built for failure for all genders. Nobody is happy with them.

Women are getting more validation and more free drinks out of apps. They are also getting more options for sex and getting sex with higher tier men than their 1990 pre-app equivalents or women today not using apps.

Women who are 5-6s are getting fuccked by men 8+. That's awesome in the short term but they aren't securing commitments from these man. A man who is an 8.5 wants a commitment from a woman who is at least an 8.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The top tier of men will do the best when they drop down. A 8+ man will end up banging a bunch of women in the 5.5-6.5 range but never committing to them because why would he? If an 8.5 man wants to commit, a 6 isn't going to be it. He wants to commit to an 8-8.5 woman, but maybe he's not getting their attention. The guys who are 6-7 are dumpster diving and are stuck with 4.5-5.5 if they want to get their penises wet.

Swipe apps are a great way to mate down.

Hypergamy. That’s how it is supposed to work.

 

[Vantagepoint34]

Hypergamy. That’s how it is supposed to work.

Hey…. It’s a law, about 1879 Germandy TTYL