"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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article: How the American Dream convinces people loneliness is normal

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It's OVER for AmericanDreamCels.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Loneliness is a bigger male problem than female problem. First off, almost no females are involuntarily celibate. It's easy for even below average looking females to find sex. The bigger problem for women is involuntary solitude (insol) status. Insol females are much different than incel males. Insol females do get sex on at least a semi-regular basis and they have better social skills than the typical incel male. The insol female typical has female friends and she is getting laid. She might be using anti-anxiety meds and/or anti-depressants due to a lack of commitment from males and she might have multiple cats, but she has no problems finding penis.
 

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Male loneliness is a big problem.

I can’t find the meme, but there was one with a chick at a bar complaining that some guy hadn’t texted back yet. Then there is some lonely-cel guy drinking alone at another bar and thinking something to the effect of “I haven’t spoken with another person in weeks.”
 

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Other than the pandemic, why such an increase?
(from the article)
"Social isolation, loneliness, fear of infection, psychological exhaustion (particularly among front-line responders such as healthcare workers), elevated substance abuse and disruptions in mental health services have all likely played a role. "

Personally i think more people working remotely is leading to loneliness too. As much of a pain as it can be to show up onsite at work everyday, you get more interactions with people. We are social animals and even if we don't like some of the people we work with, it's more stimulating than sitting on a laptop at home alone.

It's also a reason i think people on here need to do more in person approaches. Even when they dont go the way you want they are good for you.
 

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It's also a reason i think people on here need to do more in person approaches. Even when they dont go the way you want they are good for you.
Wow, then I must be doing stupendously! :rolleyes: :mad:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Personally i think more people working remotely is leading to loneliness too. As much of a pain as it can be to show up onsite at work everyday, you get more interactions with people. We are social animals and even if we don't like some of the people we work with, it's more stimulating than sitting on a laptop at home alone.
Having done both I prefer to work from home. I can make connections outside of work just fine.

Men should lean into loneliness; it's where greatness begins. I don't think there's anything to fear from solitude as long as you go out and connect at some point.
 

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It's also a reason i think people on here need to do more in person approaches. Even when they dont go the way you want they are good for you.
I disagree. Doing many in-person approaches and not getting results from it will cause psychological trauma.
 

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Men should lean into loneliness; it's where greatness begins.
This is silliness.

If you have not realized already, western males are lonely and isolated because they pushed society in that direction on purpose. It is no accident. There are architects behind it all guiding males into a state of weakness while lifting females up into male-like roles and corrupting female mindsets on purpose.

It is no accident.
 

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This is silliness.

If you have not realized already, western males are lonely and isolated because they pushed society in that direction on purpose. It is no accident. There are architects behind it all guiding males into a state of weakness while lifting females up into male-like roles and corrupting female mindsets on purpose.

It is no accident.
IME women are naturally more social than men. When you're on your own, that's when you find out who you really are and what you can do. I don't see that as weakness but strength. The problem is people expecting men to be like women - that's why they think they are lonely. Females can't go very long without socializing, but males can handle it just fine.
 

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Females can't go very long without socializing, but males can handle it just fine.
There are plenty of men whose primary contact with other humans is through the course of their job. Once their job is finished, they have almost no in-person human interaction. That doesn't happen as much with women.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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There are plenty of men whose primary contact with other humans is through the course of their job. Once their job is finished, they have almost no in-person human interaction. That doesn't happen as much with women.
True. I would recommend not relying on work for this kind of happiness though. That's what family and friends are for. If a man lacks friends there are better ways to make them (though they can be found at work).
 

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I believe one of the issues is age connected since for middle aged women it gets easier to socialize than for the average middle aged men.

Again not trying to be a Ahole but being good looking helps seriously for a mature men to have social contacts.

Middle aged woman can have friendships (mostly superficial and unrealiable) based on thin hair while men usually have when there is a common goal shared.

Once you hit your 40s for most men is more about consolidating than creating.
 
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