"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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article: How the American Dream convinces people loneliness is normal

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It's OVER for AmericanDreamCels.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Loneliness is a bigger male problem than female problem. First off, almost no females are involuntarily celibate. It's easy for even below average looking females to find sex. The bigger problem for women is involuntary solitude (insol) status. Insol females are much different than incel males. Insol females do get sex on at least a semi-regular basis and they have better social skills than the typical incel male. The insol female typical has female friends and she is getting laid. She might be using anti-anxiety meds and/or anti-depressants due to a lack of commitment from males and she might have multiple cats, but she has no problems finding penis.
 

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Male loneliness is a big problem.

I can’t find the meme, but there was one with a chick at a bar complaining that some guy hadn’t texted back yet. Then there is some lonely-cel guy drinking alone at another bar and thinking something to the effect of “I haven’t spoken with another person in weeks.”
 

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Other than the pandemic, why such an increase?
(from the article)
"Social isolation, loneliness, fear of infection, psychological exhaustion (particularly among front-line responders such as healthcare workers), elevated substance abuse and disruptions in mental health services have all likely played a role. "

Personally i think more people working remotely is leading to loneliness too. As much of a pain as it can be to show up onsite at work everyday, you get more interactions with people. We are social animals and even if we don't like some of the people we work with, it's more stimulating than sitting on a laptop at home alone.

It's also a reason i think people on here need to do more in person approaches. Even when they dont go the way you want they are good for you.
 

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It's also a reason i think people on here need to do more in person approaches. Even when they dont go the way you want they are good for you.
Wow, then I must be doing stupendously! :rolleyes: :mad:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Personally i think more people working remotely is leading to loneliness too. As much of a pain as it can be to show up onsite at work everyday, you get more interactions with people. We are social animals and even if we don't like some of the people we work with, it's more stimulating than sitting on a laptop at home alone.
Having done both I prefer to work from home. I can make connections outside of work just fine.

Men should lean into loneliness; it's where greatness begins. I don't think there's anything to fear from solitude as long as you go out and connect at some point.
 

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It's also a reason i think people on here need to do more in person approaches. Even when they dont go the way you want they are good for you.
I disagree. Doing many in-person approaches and not getting results from it will cause psychological trauma.
 

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Men should lean into loneliness; it's where greatness begins.
This is silliness.

If you have not realized already, western males are lonely and isolated because they pushed society in that direction on purpose. It is no accident. There are architects behind it all guiding males into a state of weakness while lifting females up into male-like roles and corrupting female mindsets on purpose.

It is no accident.
 

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This is silliness.

If you have not realized already, western males are lonely and isolated because they pushed society in that direction on purpose. It is no accident. There are architects behind it all guiding males into a state of weakness while lifting females up into male-like roles and corrupting female mindsets on purpose.

It is no accident.
IME women are naturally more social than men. When you're on your own, that's when you find out who you really are and what you can do. I don't see that as weakness but strength. The problem is people expecting men to be like women - that's why they think they are lonely. Females can't go very long without socializing, but males can handle it just fine.
 

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Females can't go very long without socializing, but males can handle it just fine.
There are plenty of men whose primary contact with other humans is through the course of their job. Once their job is finished, they have almost no in-person human interaction. That doesn't happen as much with women.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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There are plenty of men whose primary contact with other humans is through the course of their job. Once their job is finished, they have almost no in-person human interaction. That doesn't happen as much with women.
True. I would recommend not relying on work for this kind of happiness though. That's what family and friends are for. If a man lacks friends there are better ways to make them (though they can be found at work).
 

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I believe one of the issues is age connected since for middle aged women it gets easier to socialize than for the average middle aged men.

Again not trying to be a Ahole but being good looking helps seriously for a mature men to have social contacts.

Middle aged woman can have friendships (mostly superficial and unrealiable) based on thin hair while men usually have when there is a common goal shared.

Once you hit your 40s for most men is more about consolidating than creating.
 
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