"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Article and a Question on Escalation!

schttrj

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Ok, very funny that I just read an article by TD on the Attraction Forums where he says in an article called "Playing hard to get", that you should never do cold approaches and only do it when the girls are givings you AIs. Like what he says is to do is just bait them to come to you. Why would they come to you because you are 'cooler' and 'more valuable' than the girl in question. So direct game is out of question when you are gaming hotties! Situational openers are best for their naturalness and spontaneity!

Anyways, now my question is a little off what I said above. I am seeing something, when I am playing a direct game, I am good at escalating but when I am playing the indirect game like in the 'hook-pull' method, I am feeling uneasy while doing the escalation. It is kind of that I am getting stuck in the maze of attraction phase where she keeps on chasing me and I am not taking it to the further level. You get me here, guys? I feel like if I tend to escalate I would fall into her reality. How do you suggest me to go about this?

PS_ I am talking of hotties like 8's, 9's or 10's
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do you know this experiance or do you just think it after reading Tyler's article? Big difference.

I think the problems all in your head. Just esculate and see how it goes. If it doesn't work come back here or try something else.
 

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ok, first of all, I have always baited the girl, that was my style but I understand it is actually lessening my chances overall. So, I took to cold approaches and saw that it is really hard to get along with a hottie once you have started a direct game and she is not very responsive to it. Never got any where, guys, but needless to say, I am still trying on!

My previous style: Once the girl gets my attention and I get attention, I just give her a glare in her eyes and turn away or act like nothing is going on. You know when you tell something through your eyes and the next moment, you are acting like nothing is going on or she is just another person, nothing special. This is how I actually got girls.

But I am trying to increase my opportunities through CAs too. Only that I am still skeptical about direct game.

And Tyler said, also that it is not 'cool' in some high end cities or something but it is done in NYC and London. That is how he puts it and also, that he says the naturally alpha guys never cold approach unless they havent got the attention of the ladies. There was I thinking that I used to do like that! LOL.. but then I think it certainly not going to hurt if you take your chance you might want to like or think interesting. Maybe she is waiting for you! If you want to give it a look, check in the Attraction Forums.
 

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that article is pretty old. a lot of reliance on canned material

since TD is natural game now, he probably doesn't follow that model anymore
 

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I just looked at that list of articles

they're all old - from before 2005
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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