“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Are you TOO c&f/stoic/bad boy?

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I'm a big fan of Elliot Hulse who talks a lot about BALANCE.

All of you came here because you were blue pill beta males, and eventually swallowed the red pill and changed your style. Unfortunately, it seems the other extreme can backfire pretty frequently as well.

Assuming you're not a 6'5" millionaire with tattoo sleeves that's going to clean up just by walking in the room, how do you strike that balance between nice guy and badass without coming off as bitter or obnoxious?

I'm not talking about "working on yourself" or "be an interesting guy and watch women come to you." I'm talking about the logistics of your game specifically - day game vs. night game, how you start a conversation, and text game leading up to the first bang.

I saw a thread here that talked about "treat them like sh*t, no exceptions" but am skeptical even in an LTR. In the prequel to the game, this is an absurd way to approach a new girl.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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skinnyguy

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Putting on C+F to attract women shows insecurity.

I always act myself around women. If they don't like me for who I am, I'm wasting my time. This whole bad boy thing is a facade for someone who has deep issues. With that kind of persona you will attract the crazy women and ones who were sexually abused when they were 5.

What I am working on is charisma. The most successful men I've ever known had it. They didn't have tattoos or use steroids. They just had an aura of success.
 

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Walk up to 10 different girls and say "Hi u look nice, Can i have your number"

do this for 10 days straight

10 x 10 = 100 girls approached

2 out of 10 will give u a number so 20 numbers in ur pocket/phone

call/msg all 20 about half of these will respond

7 will go on a date 3 will flake

out of the remaining 5 u hopefully get a second date with 3 of them and bang 1 or 2 tops

that is "game" the StarWolf version
 
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Starwolf said:
Walk up to 10 different girls and say "Hi u look nice, Can i have your number"

do this for 10 days straight

10 x 10 = 100 girls approached

2 out of 10 will give u a number so 20 numbers in ur pocket/phone

call/msg all 20 about half of these will respond

7 will go on a date 3 will flake

out of the remaining 5 u hopefully get a second date with 3 of them and bang 1 or 2 tops

that is "game" the StarWolf version
I've always said this. Being "better" will mean that your "hit percentages" will go up, but almost no one will ever be 100% or even 90% for that matter.
 

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I'm sorry but your math error is bothering me. Agree with your reply though.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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PipeDope said:
I'm sorry but your math error is bothering me. Agree with your reply though.
:D :up:
 

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Starwolf said:
Walk up to 10 different girls and say "Hi u look nice, Can i have your number"

do this for 10 days straight

10 x 10 = 100 girls approached

2 out of 10 will give u a number so 20 numbers in ur pocket/phone

call/msg all 20 about half of these will respond

7 will go on a date 3 will flake

out of the remaining 5 u hopefully get a second date with 3 of them and bang 1 or 2 tops

that is "game" the StarWolf version
Waste of time. Could spend that time doing something more productive. Try doing social circle game with way less flakes and less energy, ill make a thread about it later.
 

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cola said:
Waste of time. Could spend that time doing something more productive. Try doing social circle game with way less flakes and less energy, ill make a thread about it later.
I keep saying, the social circle is the key to all pūssy.


You must become a resourceful man. A man that everyone likes and respects. A with many friends. The man people say "hmmm, HE might know' A man who many owe you favors. A man with connections. Networking.

Pūssy will fall in your lap, Approaching will be a walk in the fūcking park.

This is easier said then done though. A thread needshow to be made.
 

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Balance is the key to life.

Every action has a reaction.

Make sure you take the good and appreciate the bad with it.

Yin & Yang.

This is what I try to live by and try to apply it to everything in my life.
 
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PipeDope said:
I'm sorry but your math error is bothering me. Agree with your reply though.
I was saying with his system, he could raise his approaches... OR, he could raise his hit rate by raising desireable attributes and skills. I think all of us DJ's want an abundance of qualities not really had by the competition.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DaddyLongShanks said:
I think all of us DJ's want an abundance of qualities not really had by the competition.
Easier said than done.
But they say that if things came easily, they wouldn't be worth having.
 
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