"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"Are you stalking me?" WTF!

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Don't utter another word to her other than the cursory hello if you cross her path. Stop going out of your way for her.

Are you stalking me?, it's just girltalk for leave me alone.
She knows you're not stalking her but that is feminine subtlety at play.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Logical Player said:
You are, as a player-in-the-making NOT supposed to "really like" some girl until you have had sex with her a few times.
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BS... you can really like someone whenever you feel like it, you just shouldn't become too emotionally involved.
 
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Emotion is not right or wrong, it just is. What you do about it is paramount.

I tend to think a lot of these posts the person is already too late, and the best thing they can do is learn from next time.

Also, some of the C+F stuff, it seems to come off pretty harsh to me. Is that overdoing it or how C+F should be played out? Examples:

I only stalk pretty girls.
I thought trophy wives are hot.

We haven't even had sex yet and you're already talking about marriage? (OR) Fine, lets hitch a ride to Vegas after school.
Those seemed to be I guess less abrasive. Is that good or bad?
 
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