"Are you going to willingly submit to being punished?"

[BackInTheGame78]

Took this from Guru...except I'm using it in texts before setting up the date...priming the pump so to speak and seeing what type of woman I am dealing with. It has been working pretty damn good I have to say.

Girl 1(meeting tomorrow):

G1: Is 8:30pm tomorrow OK, just realized my daughter has cheer til 7:30...(date was set for 8pm)

Me: Yeah that's cool, as long as you wear something extra sexy for me

G1: Lol, I can do that I got plenty of sexy clothes

G1(10 hours later): What do you consider sexy?

Me: You

G1: Lol alright so no clothes then!

Me: We'll probably have to choose a different place then.

G1: Lol True story! I'd get arrested

Me: Then I'd have to punish you for being naughty Girl1

G1: Lol! Darn, I'm so sad about that

Me: Are you going to willingly submit to the punishment?

G1: Depends what it is But probably!

Me: Good to know...I'll see you tomorrow

G1: Yes Sir!


In response to a smart @ss comment Girl 2 made:

Me: You trying to earn punishment already? Keep it up.

G2: So now you think you're going to punish me? Lol

Me: Are you going to willingly submit to the punishment?

G2: Why does that sound kinky?

Me: I'm just asking.

G2: Maybe I will and maybe you are the one that needs to be punished...

Me: I'm not the submissive type.

G2: So I can't tie you up and have my way with you?

Me: I'm the rocker of worlds, not the one getting rocked.

G2: Damn....OK then

G2: I don't believe I have ever had my world rocked!!! Lol

Me: Could you handle it?

G2: I can handle anything you could possibly come up with.

Me: Good girl. That's what I like to hear.

G2:

G2: What did you have in mind?

Me: You'll just have to find out...

G2: That's what you keep telling me...

Me: Easier for me to show than tell you.

G2: Hmmmm...

G2: This week is bad for me and I'm going out of town this weekend. Next week sometime?

Me: Hit me up when you get back, G2

G2: Ok Babe!


Not only does this set you apart from 95% of the other guys she is talking to in that you are bringing up this in a matter of fact type of way, you are being overtly sexual but in a way she actually likes as almost all women fantasize about being dominated and submitting to a man. When you talk like that she starts to associate those qualities with you, and if she ends up meeting you she already knows what is in store for her.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Me and my buddy talk to our plates like this. We call it Chrissing as a reference to BD SM & 50 shades. It works pretty well seeing as we're both overt dominant types. Just wanna add. Note: This approach does not work for everyone. It has to match your demeanor or it'll come off weird. Also, make sure you can back up what you say. Don't go on about how much "punishment" she's gonna get and then proceed to give her 2 minutes of whack ass missionary highschool sex.

Good post Op.

Edit: BD SM is censored. Lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Me and my buddy talk to our plates like this. We call it Chrissing as a reference to BD SM & 50 shades. It works pretty well seeing as we're both overt dominant types. Just wanna add. Note: This approach does not work for everyone. It has to match your demeanor or it'll come off weird. Also, make sure you can back up what you say. Don't go on about how much "punishment" she's gonna get and then proceed to give her 2 minutes of whack ass missionary highschool sex.

Good post Op.

Edit: BD SM is censored. Lol

Haha..that's not a concern...they always get more than they bargained for...test/tren turns you into a monster.

 

[guru1000]

Nice, keep us posted. Make sure you go hard as any man with balls would do. If she isn't running, that means she wants to fvck. Just don't catch a rape charge, lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Nice, keep us posted. Make sure you go hard as any man with balls would do. If she isn't running, that means she wants to fvck. Just don't catch a rape charge, lol

I definitely will...planning to try the whole "You...are...hot!" thing and then telling her "I want to **** you" afterwards and see how that works for me...Guru method take 1

 

[JDJ]

Haha..that's not a concern...they always get more than they bargained for...test/tren turns you into a monster.

Oh yeah it does! Happy I'm not the only one juicing on here, although I just started my journey here soso can't tell if it's helping or hurting...... What do you think?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Nice, keep us posted. Make sure you go hard as any man with balls would do. If she isn't running, that means she wants to fvck. Just don't catch a rape charge, lol

Girl1 tonight canceled saying her sitter bailed on her, then sent a long text that begged me not to be mad at her and that she is really sorry, and she understands if I never want to talk to her again, etc...

I responded "OK"

and then she said "I'm really sorry"

So I told her I'm sure she'll figure out a way to make it up to me then and she said "Of Course I will". I respond "OK"

2 hours later she asks me if I like going to concerts and what type. I give a few one word replies, then she asks me if I'll go to the concert with her this weekend, she said she will buy my ticket. Told her I'm out of town this weekend, and she says "OK Maybe some other concert".

I told her "Just cook me dinner sometime" and she said "I can do that I'm a great cook." Told her to get back to me when she figures out when she can make that happen.

Don't really care, if she wants to see me badly enough she will get back to me. If not, oh well...

 

[guru1000]

Told her to get back to me when she figures out when she can make that happen.

Perfect. Now you set up the frame of her initiating/chasing for future encounters. She must initiate/chase or hit the road jack.

I rather have a harem of 2-3 girls pursuing me hard than 10 that I have to pursue. This is the hallmark of a DJ.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Perfect. Now you set up the frame of her initiating/chasing for future encounters. She must initiate/chase or hit the road jack.

I rather have a harem of 2-3 girls pursuing me hard than 10 that I have to pursue. This is the hallmark of a DJ.

Supposed to be meeting up tomorrow night with the chick from this thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=228394

Let's see what happens. She is getting off work at midnight and already knows what is going to be happening. Let's see if she bails when its time for action. Don't have many dealings with younger chicks(she's 26), but she says she is into older guys...

 

[marmel75]

Definitely a good job with the texting, I'd just be worried the women are going to freeze like a deer in the headlights when its time to meet, but chance favors the bold as I always say.

 

[guru1000]

Most of these chicks I bang are between 26 (including one from Sat night) - 29. The younger they are, the easier they are, as they are not as jaded and very inexperienced. Naive little girls, lol, which is good as I like fresh minds that I can mold with no fuss. They are also more fun, always dtf, and share the "don't give a fck" state of mind. Cool chicks.

How old are you?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Definitely a good job with the texting, I'd just be worried the women are going to freeze like a deer in the headlights when its time to meet, but chance favors the bold as I always say.

Yeah, might have been what happened to the first one, but whatever I guess...

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Most of these chicks I bang are between 26 (including one from Sat night) - 29. The younger they are, the easier they are, as they are not as jaded and very inexperienced. Naive little girls, lol, which is good as I like fresh minds that I can mold with no fuss. They are also more fun, always dtf, and share the "don't give a fck" state of mind. Cool chicks.

How old are you?

I'm almost 41, but due to my eating and workout habits(and having as much sex as possible---sex keeps you young) I pass for early 30s or sometimes even late 20s. Don't go out much, but occasionally will hang out with some buddies at a bar or club and chicks in their mid to late 20s will be hitting on me because they think I am only a few years older than they are...

 

[guru1000]

The greater the age differential, the stronger a Godfather frame you can hold. I can snap my fingers and say "Come here" to a girl in her mid-twenties, and 9 out of 10 times, she will come. If I were to try doing that to a girl closer to my age, it's not happening. Kind of like when I told these girls this weekend to get into the car right now--and they did.

Age, as long as the frame is portrayed correctly, garners automatic respect.

 

[KingBeef]

I'm almost 41, but due to my eating and workout habits(and having as much sex as possible---sex keeps you young) I pass for early 30s or sometimes even late 20s. Don't go out much, but occasionally will hang out with some buddies at a bar or club and chicks in their mid to late 20s will be hitting on me because they think I am only a few years older than they are...

Seriously man, YOU NEED TO GO OUT MORE AND TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF YOUTHFUL LOOKS... Its not going to last forever but seize the day. Go out there with ABSOLUTELY NO INHIBITIONS and do what you want. A lot of guys in there 40's would give anything to look 10-15 years younger...

 

[guru1000]

A lot of guys in there 40's would give anything to look 10-15 years younger...

KingBeef, that's possible for anyone. Keep lean to shave years off your look. Do cardio to rid yourself of subcutaneous water. Others need Botox, Scuptra, and/or Ultherapy. Have no shame in doing whatever is necessary to look your best and accomplish the mission.

Quick question...haven't specified where we are meeting, should I let her know or wait for her to hit me up?

Until you bang her--and assuming you have allowed her reasonable time to initiate--you court. A simple, "Hey, see you at XYZ lounge @ 8pm!"

 

[BackInTheGame78]

KingBeef, that's possible for anyone. Keep lean to shave years off your look. Do cardio to rid yourself of subcutaneous water. Others need Botox, Scuptra, and/or Ultherapy. Have no shame in doing whatever is necessary to look your best and accomplish the mission.

Quick question...haven't specified where we are meeting, should I let her know or wait for her to hit me up?

UPDATE: Didn't hear from her, and I had another date with a different chick planned at 9pm...sent a text to chick 1 saying "Let me know when you get off work", went out with chick 2 and got a text back from chick 1 at 9:30
" You didn't forget!"

So initially when I met up with chick 2, I was planning to just try and get at her tonight if I didn't hear back from chick 1, but I decided to go with the sure thing and used the cut the date short method with chick 2 while we were having a lot of fun after about 45 minutes...

Sure enough she tried to get me to stay saying we just got here and how much fun she was having with me, etc, etc...I told her I am having fun too, but I have to be somewhere and for her to hit me up and we will do it again soon...she practically pulled me down as I got up to leave, then started grabbing my @ss on the way out as she walked behind me saying "I'm going to get you to stay one way or another!"

So we get outside and are walking along the side of a building and I slow down and stop and she stops in front of me and says "What's wrong?" and I say "Nothing, I just wanted to get a good look at you." and gave her a smirk and she did a little spin around and said "So do you like what you see?" and laughed.

I didn't say anything for about 5 seconds and just looked at her and I could tell she was starting to get a little unsure or nervous because she started playing with her hair and fidgeting...then I slowly take a few steps towards her while staring into her eyes and put my fingers under her chin and pull it up and slowly go in for the kiss...we kiss a few times and then she starts getting really into, so I press her somewhat forcefully against the wall of the building and pin her hands to her sides, then pull them up over her head and pin them against the wall and I pull back and I'm about 2 inches from her face just staring into her eyes and she tries a few times to reach out and kiss me, but I pull back just out of reach and she is like "You are such a tease!"

I laugh and tell her I am, but "I bet you are soaking wet, aren't you?" She gives me a shocked look and says "OMG!!! You are sooooooooo bad!! But yes, I have to admit my panties are pretty soaked right now." So I pull back and say "Good. Remember that when you think of me before going to bed tonight...."

As she is getting in the car she says "Oh, you aren't going to have to worry about me forgetting that tonight..."

She should be ready to go for a movie/smash out session the next meetup...

Meeting up with chick 1 in about an hour or so...will have an FR on that hopefully tomorrow if I have time...

 

[guru1000]

Exactly. That's the best way to schedule dates, double-book them, as you can easily eject on a flake or if the first girl is not dtf. It also incites your game leagues ahead as you know you have another piece of azz waiting for you.

I even take it a step further and book both dates at the same time, at the same place. Here, you can pick and choose the hotter one (assuming they are internet dates), and both girls see that you have no shame, are bold and are highly in demand. And you can always call the girl you reject at at later time (as long as you end the date cordially with "good reason"), as she will never forget your dropping her.

In anyway you double-book though, it works well. Good job

Keep us posted.

 

[Dryden]

I just think some of your replies are weak. I liked the first one but the girl responded better than I would have expected, she is really into you. And forgiving. The second.... it was tough. You are indeed raising expectations, you are sure to have a high perceived value to pull it off.

Girl1 tonight canceled saying her sitter bailed on her, then sent a long text that begged me not to be mad at her and that she is really sorry, and she understands if I never want to talk to her again, etc...

I responded "OK"

You can also say, "I don't really care. I just want to see you."

You don't have to accept excuses for not seeing you. In the end, ANY reason a girl gives is a ... wrong reason. How to say it. If you are really a man and she is really a woman, she should come to you. Of course you can't always enforce it and enforcing it may or does not work, but...

You can at least voice your disgruntlement (because you were, and I bet you were) and don't just say "OK". That's really.. begging.

and then she said "I'm really sorry"

So I told her I'm sure she'll figure out a way to make it up to me then and she said "Of Course I will". I respond "OK"

"I bet you will....." (with doubt in your mind). (After all, she is ditching you already for a bit of a work assignment, and I don't care about circumstances and how other stuff would be hard, and how there would be a child with her for all I care she takes the child with her and you dump it in a locker and you have sex lol). This idea that you can't have sex in front of children is noneheludicrous anyway.

She will say "No, seriously." and you will say "You know I am really a bit disappointed."

(Because I (I) would be feeling that disappointment for sure.) And she will go "It's okay". "I will seriously make it up."

And you go "I will hold you to that'.

2 hours later she asks me if I like going to concerts and what type. I give a few one word replies, then she asks me if I'll go to the concert with her this weekend, she said she will buy my ticket. Told her I'm out of town this weekend, and she says "OK Maybe some other concert".

She is really inventing things. She really doesn't have to go out of her way to please you. A concert is fine but not something you want to do with a woman right away, as it introduces a lot of ... mayhem and fallout. You have to stay "decent" for a long time and won't have any privacy, and this may or will turn down the attractiveness you've had. If you go anywhere, it should be a night out (maybe short concert, lights out, sorta dark, privacy, dancing afterward) so you and her can get to be together in decent privacy. It can't be crowded and I wouldn't go to bars. That's just not the sort of stuff you should (or want to) do with her.

Now she is trying to make up by doing silly things, at face value. That's not the way for her to make up to you. The way for her to make up to you is to be more committed and not give you bull**** next time. Now you are simply trading vices; you don't really want to go to the concert but you will indulge her, and she doesn't *really* want to stay with her child (or at least stay home with it) and you indulge her.

So you can simply say that she doesn't have to do that and it is fine if she is being herself and you just want to see her and your c0ck is getting hard but she can't see it yet so it will remain a mystery for now.
Lol.

She will say "Okay.. " or "Okay... " and be shy.

And you go "Hey it's okay, I'm sure it'll work out, I was just a bit disappointed and again because it is not so important that you make up to me this way."

"You are really sweet".

"I know but don't expect too much."

"Just get your ass over here right away." (if she doesn't say anything first).

"Okay ".

And you need to cuddle her because you've been a bit rough (I guess I am like that) and she'll truly warm up and you'll be kissing in no time, but it's gotten really soft now so You'll Invent A Way to get it spicy again soon enough.

I told her "Just cook me dinner sometime" and she said "I can do that I'm a great cook." Told her to get back to me when she figures out when she can make that happen.

Yikes. Much too far in the future. Much too... undecided, weak, no strings attached, flexible, flaky. How to say it?....

"I am sure I will eat it" ( You are still disappointed ).

"Hey! I cook really well "

"I'm sure you do but I just want you here."

"Hmmm ".

"You know I do, so... you know..? ... "

She'll be silent for a few moments.

"I'm coming over." .

Lol that is just my fantasy of how it could go, but that is how I would do it (not that I'm ever in that position, my life.... sucks currently).

(((I don't even know if she was coming to your place, might change the frame a little, your previous agreement.)))

Don't really care, if she wants to see me badly enough she will get back to me. If not, oh well...

No you couldn't gotten more out of it, don't be so indecisive and show your true feelings, your colours. Show your disappointment because that is what you were feeling (ostensibly) (no, rightly so).

You can still show your disappointment next time or throw a few texts about it. "You know, I'm really starting to feel like I was really disappointment with you not coming / not coming on the date" (I hate dates in any case, stupid things). "But I guess if it is was just a night out, I couldn't have made many demands, after all you were not coming to see me... directly."
"Maybe we should do that next time, you coming over."
"Seriously, I want that."

And then wait for her response ..


this was the last reply for today folks, more tomorrow perhaps (I'm at ten lol).

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I just think some of your replies are weak. I liked the first one but the girl responded better than I would have expected, she is really into you. And forgiving. The second.... it was tough. You are indeed raising expectations, you are sure to have a high perceived value to pull it off.



You can also say, "I don't really care. I just want to see you."

You don't have to accept excuses for not seeing you. In the end, ANY reason a girl gives is a ... wrong reason. How to say it. If you are really a man and she is really a woman, she should come to you. Of course you can't always enforce it and enforcing it may or does not work, but...

You can at least voice your disgruntlement (because you were, and I bet you were) and don't just say "OK". That's really.. begging.



"I bet you will....." (with doubt in your mind). (After all, she is ditching you already for a bit of a work assignment, and I don't care about circumstances and how other stuff would be hard, and how there would be a child with her for all I care she takes the child with her and you dump it in a locker and you have sex lol). This idea that you can't have sex in front of children is noneheludicrous anyway.

She will say "No, seriously." and you will say "You know I am really a bit disappointed."

(Because I (I) would be feeling that disappointment for sure.) And she will go "It's okay". "I will seriously make it up."

And you go "I will hold you to that'.



She is really inventing things. She really doesn't have to go out of her way to please you. A concert is fine but not something you want to do with a woman right away, as it introduces a lot of ... mayhem and fallout. You have to stay "decent" for a long time and won't have any privacy, and this may or will turn down the attractiveness you've had. If you go anywhere, it should be a night out (maybe short concert, lights out, sorta dark, privacy, dancing afterward) so you and her can get to be together in decent privacy. It can't be crowded and I wouldn't go to bars. That's just not the sort of stuff you should (or want to) do with her.

Now she is trying to make up by doing silly things, at face value. That's not the way for her to make up to you. The way for her to make up to you is to be more committed and not give you bull**** next time. Now you are simply trading vices; you don't really want to go to the concert but you will indulge her, and she doesn't *really* want to stay with her child (or at least stay home with it) and you indulge her.

So you can simply say that she doesn't have to do that and it is fine if she is being herself and you just want to see her and your c0ck is getting hard but she can't see it yet so it will remain a mystery for now.
Lol.

She will say "Okay.. " or "Okay... " and be shy.

And you go "Hey it's okay, I'm sure it'll work out, I was just a bit disappointed and again because it is not so important that you make up to me this way."

"You are really sweet".

"I know but don't expect too much."

"Just get your ass over here right away." (if she doesn't say anything first).

"Okay".

And you need to cuddle her because you've been a bit rough (I guess I am like that) and she'll truly warm up and you'll be kissing in no time, but it's gotten really soft now so You'll Invent A Way to get it spicy again soon enough.



Yikes. Much too far in the future. Much too... undecided, weak, no strings attached, flexible, flaky. How to say it?....

"I am sure I will eat it" ( You are still disappointed ).

"Hey! I cook really well "

"I'm sure you do but I just want you here."

"Hmmm ".

"You know I do, so... you know..? ... "

She'll be silent for a few moments.

"I'm coming over." .

Lol that is just my fantasy of how it could go, but that is how I would do it (not that I'm ever in that position, my life.... sucks currently).

(((I don't even know if she was coming to your place, might change the frame a little, your previous agreement.)))



No you couldn't gotten more out of it, don't be so indecisive and show your true feelings, your colours. Show your disappointment because that is what you were feeling (ostensibly) (no, rightly so).

You can still show your disappointment next time or throw a few texts about it. "You know, I'm really starting to feel like I was really disappointment with you not coming / not coming on the date" (I hate dates in any case, stupid things). "But I guess if it is was just a night out, I couldn't have made many demands, after all you were not coming to see me... directly."
"Maybe we should do that next time, you coming over."
"Seriously, I want that."

And then wait for her response ..


this was the last reply for today folks, more tomorrow perhaps (I'm at ten lol).

Being disappointed is for people with no options. I'm not begging any chick to see me, she is going to put in Work now if she wants it to happen. Any day I want I can pull 6-8 numbers or more from chicks online, so I could honestly care less about some chick I haven't met up with yet. I rarely, rarely get flaked on. Like maybe once every 15-20 dates. It's not a big issue for me.

Saying OK and nothing else is a response guaranteed to drive a woman crazy because it basically gives her nothing. You are not responding to anything she said and it's almost dismissive in nature, which is one thing most chicks cannot deal with well so she will drive herself crazy trying to figure out what you mean by it.