Are most guys just bad in bed

[The Duke]

I personally believe that this whole thing about men being good or bad at sex is a myth. I believe that a woman's enjoyment of a sexual interaction is entirely based on how attracted she is by you. If a woman is highly attracted to you, she will already be aroused before you've even touched her, so virtually anything you do will be highly enjoyable for her. Women like this are also going to pretty much let you do whatever you want and will do whatever you want them to do, they are fully submitted at this point. However, when a woman is not really that attracted to you or on the fence it will take a lot more work for her to become aroused or want to fully submit to you. This is when it starts becoming a chore for her and she really doesn't enjoy the interaction at all.

I really don't think it needs more explanation than this. Some obvious exceptions to this would be like a man having a micro penis, erectile issues/dysfunction or ejaculating in a very short period of time, etc.

How do you explain female orgasms? Do they have all to do with attraction and nothing to do with how good a man is? Nothing to do with the man?

 

[sangheilios]

How do you explain female orgasms? Do they have all to do with attraction and nothing to do with how good a man is?

As I mentioned on one of my posts on here, there was a study I read that showed that women's ability to experience an orgasm correlated with the degree of attraction she had towards the man she was with. If a woman is highly attracted to you her body will be easily primed to have sex, thus lower resistance, etc. If a man has to spend a ton of time getting a woman physically aroused or for some reason she is struggling to get into this state she either has a physiological or emotional issue going on or she is just not attracted to him. I personally believe it is that simple.

As for men's skills, I also believe this is nonsense. Unless we are comparing two extremes, I guarantee there isn't much difference compared to the various men that a woman has been with in regards to skill. When we control for basic skill level, I believe it's a combination of how attracted to you she is, your penis size, physical fitness that allows for you to perform in certain positions and your sexual stamina. Some guys have issues with ejaculating early or not being able to last for very long, there's a huge range of reasons why this might be.

Again, black pill type idea here.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

That's not entirely true. There are plenty of women that will date or enter long term relationships with men that they aren't all that attracted to, this also applies to men as well. There is a reason why a significant number of marriages end up becoming totally sexless or very close to it. Given enough time with any relationship, the novelty of physical attraction eventually fades, and it requires more effort to create a spark. There's a reason why romance novels and soap operas were so popular back in the day.

Yeah if a girl is dating you for monetary, political gain, or anything other than attraction, don't be shocked that the sex is bad lmao.

If some guy, about 6'3" and fit is in the picture she's far more attracted to this guy than the other examples. This guy doesn't need to do much of anything and she'd already be down to have sex with him with little resistance or need for stimulation, as she's already aroused by him. If he takes his clothes off, revealing a fit body, and then whips out some 7"+ **** she's going to have the night of her life. This man would have to completely screw it up to ruin his chances of being able to have her available sexually again. The trend here is that "chad" doesn't have to put anywhere near the same effort into something like this in order to not only have this one single sexual encounter but to have repeat ones with the same woman.

This is very black pill sounding but it's the truth, anyone saying otherwise is just coping to protect their own ego.

I don't disagree with this point at all. A guy that is high on her attraction list will more than likely give her better sex than a guy that's medium on her list that knows what he's doing in the bedroom initially. However, I never advocate being a girls' second, third, or fourth choice in the first place because that comes with a myriad of other problems. Back to 6'3 Hercules Chad, yes he can get away with mediocre sex game for the first few months, but eventually it's going to widdle down and become the "cute boyfriend" which will start cracking his frame. Eventually, they will break up or 6'3 Chad will become super complacent, gain weight and just be a Bubba in a glow down relationship. Either way, he doesn't win in the long run.

 

[The Duke]

As I mentioned on one of my posts on here, there was a study I read that showed that women's ability to experience an orgasm correlated with the degree of attraction she had towards the man she was with. If a woman is highly attracted to you her body will be easily primed to have sex, thus lower resistance, etc. If a man has to spend a ton of time getting a woman physically aroused or for some reason she is struggling to get into this state she either has a physiological or emotional issue going on or she is just not attracted to him. I personally believe it is that simple.

As for men's skills, I also believe this is nonsense. Unless we are comparing two extremes, I guarantee there isn't much difference compared to the various men that a woman has been with in regards to skill. When we control for basic skill level, I believe it's a combination of how attracted to you she is, your penis size, physical fitness that allows for you to perform in certain positions and your sexual stamina. Some guys have issues with ejaculating early or not being able to last for very long, there's a huge range of reasons why this might be.

So when a girl says she rarely orgasmed with her ex from the start but can have multiples with you....what's that then???? All b.s.?

 

[sangheilios]

So when a girl says she rarely orgasmed with her ex from the start but can have multiples with you....what's that then???? All b.s.?

Maybe her ex had a small penis or she just wasn't all that attracted to him in the first place? Maybe he had erectile issues or ejaculated within a minute and then just rolled over and went to sleep lol? Maybe she just says that to you to boost your ego? It could be a million different reasons.

 

[The Duke]

Here are some good examples of women complaining about guys that lack skills.

How to Make Any Man Better in Bed

We got real women to share their strategies for turning so-so lovers around. He can rock your world. All he needs are these hints!

www.glamour.com

 

[2Rocky]

I think there are women who enjoy sex more than others because of their mindset. They orgasm easier, and they don't have the anxiety or guilt about sex that some women suffer from. Ever noticed sexually repressed females have more issues than liberated women who know their bodies? If her mind isn't right it ain't gonna work no matter how talented your **** game is...

 

[The Duke]

Maybe her ex had a small penis or she just wasn't all that attracted to him in the first place? Maybe he had erectile issues or ejaculated within a minute and then just rolled over and went to sleep lol? Maybe she just says that to you to boost your ego? It could be a million different reasons.

But earlier you said "a woman's enjoyment of a sexual interaction is entirely based on how attracted she is by you. Now you have mentioned things that are related to technique/skills.

Fyi, she married the guy, together several years, he was in great shape, You know what she told me? His dihk was average, but He really didn't know what he was doing and he was done in 15min, and He had no idea how to eat pu$$y. Hey, maybe it's all b.s.

It's about, attraction, emotions, and the physical aspect. That's why bedroom skills matter.

Your theory has some leaks.

 

[The Duke]

I think there are women who enjoy sex more than others because of their mindset. They orgasm easier, and they don't have the anxiety or guilt about sex that some women suffer from. Ever noticed sexually repressed females have more issues than liberated women who know their bodies? If her mind isn't right it ain't gonna work no matter how talented your **** game is...

Yep. A handful of girls I've been with all liked watching p0rn during sehx, owned sehx toys, comfortable with their bodies, and came easy. Lots of fun.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Yep. A handful of girls I've been with all liked watching p0rn during sehx, owned sehx toys, comfortable with their bodies, and came easy. Lots of fun.

My gf has an expensive vibrator that she used often while single and while dating her ex before me. I have only counted her using it twice since we started dating..1). Was me wanting to watch her use it on herself and 2). I was gone on a work trip lol.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I feel like most guys treat sex like a reward more so than a workout and it eventually turns in to a once-a-month reward instead of a daily workout. When I am done fvcking my girl, I am tired, and I am in decent shape. If your girl is able to move less than a minute after having sex with you than you did not fvck her properly. That girl should be laying there like a dead frog for a solid 3 minutes or more after having sex with you. In addition, the married guy I that has sex with his wife once every three months made fun of a guy doing hip thrusters at the gym. I told him it was more than likely to maintain/improve his sex performance and he was like nah that just looks funny. How can you have sex if you don't know how to use your pelvis or hip muscles for an extended period of time? Call me stupid, but I make sure that my testosterone is on point, and I am fully prepared to fvck my GF to sleep at any given moment. I stay hydrated (including a glass of milk a day) and I try and avoid drinking alcohol when I am with her (one drink max...NO BEER or WINE). If I am drunk, I turn down sex lol.

Funny, I always thought that sex was supposed to be “fun”. The way you describe it, it sounds more like a job/trying to please your boss. Doing hip thrusters to improve performance, staying hydrated, not having alcohol…do you also prepare bar graphs tracking your daily progress?

The funny thing is that none of this matters if the girl is actually HOT. If she is, it won’t matter if you were doing hip thrusters or drinking milk earlier in the day. You will want to fvck the living sh!t out of her regardless.

 

[Bokanovsky]

So when a girl says she rarely orgasmed with her ex from the start but can have multiples with you....what's that then???? All b.s.?

It could be that she says the same thing to every guy she sleeps with. It’s the female equivalent of “nice shoes”.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Funny, I always thought that sex was supposed to be “fun”. The way you describe it, it sounds more like a job/trying to please your boss. Doing hip thrusters to improve performance, staying hydrated, not having alcohol…do you also prepare bar graphs tracking your daily progress?

The funny thing is that none of this matters if the girl is actually HOT. If she is, it won’t matter if you were doing hip thrusters or drinking milk earlier in the day. You will want to fvck the living sh!t out of her regardless.

when you have sex 3-8 times a day, it matters especially when you pass age 30. This doesn’t apply to 1-4 times a month doggie reward sex. However, if you are getting doggie treat sex than more likely ur sex game is rank. Like I said before, treat sex as a fun time reward and it's going to turn in to a reward. You don't want your sex life dying in a relationship? Get better at sex then lol. If you hate it, then keep tredding from one night stand to one night stand.

 

[Bokanovsky]

when you have sex 3-8 times a day, it matters especially when you pass age 30. This doesn’t apply to 1-4 times a month doggie reward sex. However, if you are getting doggie treat sex than more likely ur sex game is rank. Like I said before, treat sex as a fun time reward and it's going to turn in to a reward. You don't want your sex life dying in a relationship? Get better at sex then lol. If you hate it, then keep tredding from one night stand to one night stand.

Why on earth would you want to have sex 8 times a day? Don’t you have anything else to do with your time?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

It's even more fun when they freak out and say, "holy **** I thought that was porn BS!" Getting to squirt manually isn't hard at all; getting them to do I while you're in them is a different level of cawk game altogether, repeatedly.

For example...very few men know hot to make a woman squirt in a way that is replicable for pretty much any woman within 5-10 minutes. They usually only "get lucky" and have this happen with the ones who squirt for virtually anyone.

Those are like 10-15% of women...there are another 85-90% of women out there they are unable to make that happen with. I'd say about 30-40% of women, maybe more, have never squirted in their life...you enter God Tier in their eyes when you make it happen. Most of the others only do it sometimes and don't know how it happens.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I always aim to get the GF to come first. Some times I get her to squirt, which then she hates the clean-up. So, one never wins.

Get one of those dog blankets made to be put on the couch, they're waterproof.

 

[ohsnaps1104]

I always tell guys "If you don't do business you're going out of business because if you don't give a woman what she want/needs she will find it else where."

 

[RickTheToad]

Get one of those dog blankets made to be put on the couch, they're waterproof.

We have one... She's a gusher.. We also forget to put it down at times. Most sex is random, not scheduled.

 

[RickTheToad]

Most guys, and girls aren't "bad" at sex, they just have it to much where it becomes mundane. (chasing a dopamine rush)

If I had to make a bet I would say their are more women then men that are "bad" at sex.

I think in a over stimulated sex crazed society we live in, sex is highly highly overrated, and women use this to their own advantage and disadvantages. In a perfect world a women in her feminine energy would orgasm simply from penetration.

In most cases men arent bad at "sex", women are just not in tune with themselves and unable to orgasm (blaming men). If a women has sex once a year (9 months), like human biology naturally allows, she would be so wet, screaming from an orgasm and still begging for your d1ck before you even swung it out.

In turn men have become sex toys to these type of woman.

The only people who are inherently "bad" at sex are the ones unable to orgasm.

Also, I think with the advent of online porn, dudes can just rub one out with a video of a more attractive female that they'd otherwise not be able to see nude; let alone performing sex.

 

[RickTheToad]

Average is 5-7 minutes. Look it up

Way too low, and my member is barely 2 inches...