"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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"Are Dating Apps Really Stacked Against Men?"

BaronOfHair

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I found a few years ago Tinder was the best for me for meeting young freaky women (24-28) however, I got banned 3 years ago...
After the first few of those gals went missing and photos of you barbecuing what remained of them in your backyard showed up on Instagram, it's tough to fault Tinder for doing so, we must admit

Wrongful death suits frequently end in plaintiffs walking away with millions, and even if Tinder was raking in the dough they were a decade ago today, $$$$$$$$$ still don't grown on trees
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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machoMax

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There might be a few reasons for this:

1. You profile sucks.

2. The more sinister reason: they shadow banned you enticing you to pay the monthly subscription.

3. Location matters

4. Let's take a 1000 women. 600 will be in LTRs. 200 will be single doing Lord knows what. That leaves 200 women who are chronically on the apps and these women's brains are rewired/ fried when it comes to attraction towards men.

Their bar will be extremely high, they will monkeybrance as soon as there's a slight problem, and basically use OLD as a " boyfriend shop". Most likely the ration men/ women is also in their favor, so it's EXTREMELY difficult to be consistently successful.

Don't worry about it too much

I like Your "calculation" because I am pretty sure that You done the math well here....
 

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Is not so much odds are stacked, it's largely that the dating applications are stupid

I've had these conversations with women before, it's something I like to ask when I am in group of them. I ask what's the impression of men on something like tinder, would you really date? ---- The response was generally negative & did not think highly of these guys. A lot admit to using for "fun", this meant they just like to see the messages from guys complimenting appearance.

Dating apps low probability of success. There is nothing to go off of except appearance. In person can see how you talk, act, etc. and this can have slight influence on her perception of you. You mus also place yourself in her shoes: say you are typical young, attractive female who is used to having admirers --- Why bother with app? Just for safety reason alone going to be hesitant to agree to meet up with strangers in random places, you don't know who these guys are and if they will harm you. The preferred way is of course going to be through friends as her friends can speak on the guys behalf etc. or environment like University or something.
 

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Is not so much odds are stacked, it's largely that the dating applications are stupid
Do you have any thoughts on Caleb Jones' 5 Phases of Effectiveness Theory for online dating theory?


Phase One: Early Adopters
Phase Two: Hyper-effectiveness
Phase Three: Normal
Phase Four: Difficult
Phase Five: Niched

According to this theory, Caleb would likely say that the app environment right now is ripe for disruption since Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge are all in Phase 4 and 5.

Caleb claimed that Match had a hyper effective period in the early 2000s when beta males were able to get laid off of it with relative ease. I was in college when Match was in its hyper effective period, so I never got to experience that. College students in the early to mid 2000s weren't using tech to dates because they had the resources of a college campus. If a college student was using Match in 2003, that was a sign of something in their game being off.

Tinder launched in Sept 2012 and went through Phases 1-4 much faster than Match did. I was on Tinder in 2013 likely in its hyper-effective period. I found it easier to get dates but I was having a "one date, no sex, no second date" issue on Tinder in 2013.

Based on my experience, I think Caleb overstates the hyper-effective period.

Dating apps low probability of success. There is nothing to go off of except appearance. In person can see how you talk, act, etc. and this can have slight influence on her perception of you. You mus also place yourself in her shoes: say you are typical young, attractive female who is used to having admirers --- Why bother with app? Just for safety reason alone going to be hesitant to agree to meet up with strangers in random places, you don't know who these guys are and if they will harm you. The preferred way is of course going to be through friends as her friends can speak on the guys behalf etc. or environment like University or something.
There's nothing efficient about dating apps, even in a "hyper-effective" period, which might have been Tinder in 2013 or Bumble in 2015-2016.

Other options are better options.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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