"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Are American women so hypergamous that even NFL players have fat wives?

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I was looking at the article which has some pictures of the players and their family at "family day" at training camp, and was struck that I saw a player had a rather chunky wife.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ss..._nick_fairley_retu.html#incart_river_home_pop

It seems to me that on a quite a few levels, an NFL player should be viewed by women as very desirable (great income, very athletic, generally tall, winner at life, admired by hoards of female fans, etc.), and hence one would think that these men would marry properly trim women. But then I thought that maybe American woman are this hypergamous. Egads!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Maybe he actually likes her for who she is instead of what she looks like? Idk it's just a thought.
 

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I was looking at the article which has some pictures of the players and their family at "family day" at training camp, and was struck that I saw a player had a rather chunky wife.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ss..._nick_fairley_retu.html#incart_river_home_pop

It seems to me that on a quite a few levels, an NFL player should be viewed by women as very desirable (great income, very athletic, generally tall, winner at life, admired by hoards of female fans, etc.), and hence one would think that these men would marry properly trim women. But then I thought that maybe American woman are this hypergamous. Egads!
Woman A: Overweight, loves you for you and not your money, could go broke tomorrow would still be there, doesnt have extravagant taste and blow your money.

Woman B: Body of a sport illustrated model, Only likes the finer things, only with you because you are rich, buys anything she sees on impulse on your account, bitchy most of the time.

Which ones the better catch? We have to get pass this looks thing. They don't matter that much in regards to ltr/marriage. You'd be foolish to marry or get in a relationship because of a womans looks.

Now your casual sex partners, you can be as discriminate as you like.
 

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Woman A: Overweight, loves you for you and not your money, could go broke tomorrow would still be there, doesnt have extravagant taste and blow your money.

Woman B: Body of a sport illustrated model, Only likes the finer things, only with you because you are rich, buys anything she sees on impulse on your account, *****y most of the time.

Which ones the better catch? We have to get pass this looks thing. They don't matter that much in regards to ltr/marriage. You'd be foolish to marry or get in a relationship because of a womans looks.

Now your casual sex partners, you can be as discriminate as you like.
Woman A also probably brings in a nice check and is supportive and helpful in your life. Woman B, defends her own life and puts her interests first.
 

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In most instances, the girls actually were fit, athletic and attractive at the time of marriage.
The problem is after marriage. The girls seem to lose the motivation to maintain themselves, while knowing she has him trapped and leashed with life long entitlements.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It is possible to have the best of both worlds, but these women are rare like uncut diamonds. Think the optimum is 8 or 9 and they don't have their heads shoved too far up their own backsides.
 

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its a combination of things...alot of these dudes are black, and black guys like thicker women generally speaking.

second of all, athletes are all too aware of gold diggin hoes

3rd, some of these chicks might have been with the guy before he made it in the NFL, and maybe already popped out a kid or two. Mom weight added in there

4th, all these NFL NBA guys got their down ass wifey chick who might not be the mos aesthetic, but you know they also have countless side chicks and jersey chaser groupies they smash out on the regular.
 

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Pretty much

1. Cola Said

2. thatfeel said

If she's what that's alpha no? Alpha is having what you want? He got it.

Girl might have been from before his days, after, kids, maybe he's not a ''pro'' PUA, maybe he want a woman he knows she's not after the $$$, he wants quality in emotional and intellectual, also maybe she's on Leukemia meds (which makes the girl take 300 pounds).

Another athlete is Roger Federer... check his wife

The important part is they are happy and she fill what he lacks
 

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I have a good friend who is a well regarded NFL football player. Every year, I attend his pool party where several of his fellow team members show up with their girls. You know who usually has the hottest chic?......lol, its Howiestern who makes a tenth of what they do, is way shorter, way smaller, hardly any muscles, and has no high profile career. Go Figure!

I once heard lead singer Vince Neil of Motley Crue say " the bad thing about all of these hot women throwing themselves at you, is you never know what their intentions are. You don't know if they want you for your money and fame or they truly like you."
 
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Hmm, she's not that bad looking, not the best looking women out there. But they have been married for over 20 years I think I mean lets be honest snoop dog looks like well a dog.. Maybe except with makeup lol. images (1).jpg 1413503375009_wps_15_25_Years_strong.jpg images.jpg
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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images (2).jpg Another one is LeBron James. Check his wife out:
 

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Oh yea and alot of times the "beautiful ones hurt you every time". Go ask Tim Duncan:

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I was looking at the article which has some pictures of the players and their family at "family day" at training camp, and was struck that I saw a player had a rather chunky wife.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ss..._nick_fairley_retu.html#incart_river_home_pop

It seems to me that on a quite a few levels, an NFL player should be viewed by women as very desirable (great income, very athletic, generally tall, winner at life, admired by hoards of female fans, etc.), and hence one would think that these men would marry properly trim women. But then I thought that maybe American woman are this hypergamous. Egads!
Ever seen Vince Wilforks wife? Whoooooaaaaa....wtf was he thinking?

But...typically they have plenty of side chicks that would make all of us drool that chase them....
 

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Every woman in Cardinal country, which is St Louis plus several hours drive in every direction, has a crush on Yadier Molina. Here's him with his wife:
 

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Every woman in Cardinal country, which is St Louis plus several hours drive in every direction, has a crush on Yadier Molina. Here's him with his wife:
I would bone her... She is not fat. I actually like women of that body type. In fact, this girl I had sex a week ago was just skinny... No @$$, no tits, just freaking skinny. No figure at all, just a straight line stickfigure. She had a cute face and all, but I did not find her body at all aesthetically pleasing. I fvcked that woman anyway of course, but I kind of like women with a figure better.

Curves are sexy.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I think the girl above is gorgeous. She is probably at her pudgiest in that photo, probably had a kid that month and the camera adds 10 lb.

Haven't you ever thought a girl was super hot and your friends just thought she was ok? That's because she was your type and not their type. If you like Asian women, even a pudgy Asian woman will seem hot. If you don't like Asian woman, Miss China won't seem hot. That's why telling someone a girl is an HB8, HB9 etc nearly always leads to their saying you overrated your girl when they see her or a photo. Because they picture an HB8 or HB9 that is their type.

Also remember: the largest divorces in history involved the most Alpha men like Michael Jordan, Paul McCartney, Tiger Woods, Neil Diamond, etc. If those guys couldn't keep a woman (who let's face it, was usually some nobody) happy, how can ordinary men expect to?

Finally, Hot Or Not showed us that the hottest people are those who average a 7 overall. There are no people who everyone rates a 10, or even a 9 or 8. That's why the scores are adjusted so a 7 is really a 10. Some people then try to flip this and say that it means an 8 is really a 5, but it's the same thing: normalization.
 

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Woman A: Overweight, loves you for you and not your money, could go broke tomorrow would still be there, doesnt have extravagant taste and blow your money.

Woman B: Body of a sport illustrated model, Only likes the finer things, only with you because you are rich, buys anything she sees on impulse on your account, *****y most of the time.

Which ones the better catch? We have to get pass this looks thing. They don't matter that much in regards to ltr/marriage. You'd be foolish to marry or get in a relationship because of a womans looks.

Now your casual sex partners, you can be as discriminate as you like.
This......Thread Closed ha ha
 
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