"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Approaching older women

mani99

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Firstly, want to say what a great site and forum...


ok, here's my problem - I want to know how to approach an older women. I don't have a problem approaching women in general, although I have yet to approach one outside a bar/club environment. Ive just started work at a new place and went for lunch at a small sandwich bar... and holy mother of god, I saw the hottest MILF you are likely to see (in my opinion!).

Just wanted your suggestions as how I could go about turning myself from a customer into something more for her.

Thanks...!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mani99

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Thanks, I will give that a try and see how it goes... anymore suggestions would be much appreciated.


Will keep you updated on my progress
 

Freddy1

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I'm not too shaby in this area.
WIth older women act mature around them. Being respectful and being nice tend to work well with older women (not so much with younger women though. Its a different animal.).

(hey I went out with my highschool teacher when I was younger. So I speak from my own experience.)

Get alittle "cultured" too. Learn alittle about the world (arts, museums, types of wines etc). At least she see that your not a dumb idiot or anything like that.
 

diablo

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DJ Tips are for giving tips, not asking for them. Please read the description of each section before making future posts. Thanks.

Moved to DJD.
 

TONYMONTANA523

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My theory has been treat every girl the same if you use a certain formula cause shes older youre going to make her feel older. Be who you are and act like it aint nothing and u should be fine.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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